Who prepares that fixture, and where does the work happen? A supplier can price the fixture while the person filling it remains invisible in the estimate.
Our FR10 carton price excludes the work that presents the cartons
SaraAbbott0026 · 10 Nov 2025, 12:41 UTC
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Dispatch operator prepares it at a separate bench. The cheaper proposal excludes that bench and its labour. The broader quote includes a feed arrangement but not operator training.
14 pointsPut training and handover into the common scope before comparing totals. I wouldn't accept included as enough either. Included for whom, covering what, and with which files left behind?
13 pointsCan the suppliers first mark included, excluded and unpriced against the same task list, before anyone pays for another polished proposal?
8 pointsWe spent a surprising amount of time explaining the pack inside our boxes after a pattern had already been drawn, so I'd send representative cartons with that list rather than trust a shared description
24 pointsHassan, did that change the work around the cell or mainly the pattern? I am trying to distinguish missing equipment from a more expensive way to operate the same equipment.
9 pointsCommon list issued. It includes the packed carton, manual preparation, feed equipment, safeguarding review, training and maintenance handover. The suppliers have not both answered it yet.
12 pointsAt the point I was describing, we hadn't explained the pack properly enough to decide, Nora; the cost was in having to reopen the comparison at all
16 pointsAnd ongoing support. A price for installing a reporting screen should say who maintains its environment after handover. I keep finding that sort of ownership stranded between the machine supplier and local IT.
-5 pointsFiona, would you put that under maintenance handover or a separate recurring-cost line?
7 pointsBoth, where they apply. The handover identifies the owner and dependencies; the recurring line shows paid support. One doesn't magically pay for the other.
8 pointsSara, does dispatch agree with the assumed preparation rate in either proposal? The comparison should not rely on a pace somebody inferred from one neatly filled fixture.
21 pointsDispatch has rejected that assumed rate. We are timing the complete current order preparation before the labour comparison is revised. Equipment scope is clearer; total cost is still provisional.
3 pointsWill the next comparison retain the unpriced lines visibly, even if purchasing asks for one headline total?
24 pointsDiscussion closed
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