Our FR10 carton price excludes the work that presents the cartons

SaraAbbott0026 · 10 Nov 2025, 12:41 UTC

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SaraAbbott0026
The lower FR10 proposal starts with cartons already oriented in a fixture we must supply. The other includes presentation equipment. I need a complete comparison, not a winner chosen by omitted work.

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NoraBell0670
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

Who prepares that fixture, and where does the work happen? A supplier can price the fixture while the person filling it remains invisible in the estimate.

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SaraAbbott0026
Replying to NoraBell0670

Dispatch operator prepares it at a separate bench. The cheaper proposal excludes that bench and its labour. The broader quote includes a feed arrangement but not operator training.

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FionaAllen0325
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

Put training and handover into the common scope before comparing totals. I wouldn't accept included as enough either. Included for whom, covering what, and with which files left behind?

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AlexChan1081
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

Can the suppliers first mark included, excluded and unpriced against the same task list, before anyone pays for another polished proposal?

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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to AlexChan1081

We spent a surprising amount of time explaining the pack inside our boxes after a pattern had already been drawn, so I'd send representative cartons with that list rather than trust a shared description

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NoraBell0670
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

Hassan, did that change the work around the cell or mainly the pattern? I am trying to distinguish missing equipment from a more expensive way to operate the same equipment.

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SaraAbbott0026
Replying to AlexChan1081

Common list issued. It includes the packed carton, manual preparation, feed equipment, safeguarding review, training and maintenance handover. The suppliers have not both answered it yet.

12 points
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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to NoraBell0670

At the point I was describing, we hadn't explained the pack properly enough to decide, Nora; the cost was in having to reopen the comparison at all

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FionaAllen0325
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

And ongoing support. A price for installing a reporting screen should say who maintains its environment after handover. I keep finding that sort of ownership stranded between the machine supplier and local IT.

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AlexChan1081
Replying to FionaAllen0325

Fiona, would you put that under maintenance handover or a separate recurring-cost line?

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FionaAllen0325
Replying to AlexChan1081

Both, where they apply. The handover identifies the owner and dependencies; the recurring line shows paid support. One doesn't magically pay for the other.

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NoraBell0670
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

Sara, does dispatch agree with the assumed preparation rate in either proposal? The comparison should not rely on a pace somebody inferred from one neatly filled fixture.

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SaraAbbott0026
Replying to NoraBell0670

Dispatch has rejected that assumed rate. We are timing the complete current order preparation before the labour comparison is revised. Equipment scope is clearer; total cost is still provisional.

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AlexChan1081
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

Will the next comparison retain the unpriced lines visibly, even if purchasing asks for one headline total?

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