How should my FR5 startup treat a request with no saved outcome?

TobyArcher0405 · 6 Feb 2026, 09:25 UTC

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TobyArcher0405
Our startup helper resends pending plate checks. One was already submitted before the crash. How should that uncertainty survive restart?

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OwenChen1182
Replying to TobyArcher0405

Give submitted-with-unknown-outcome its own state. I've got a tray recovery model with the same problem: one friendly pending label hiding two very different situations. Don't let the startup queue decide by that label alone.

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TobyArcher0405
Replying to OwenChen1182

Helper disabled for uncertain entries. We can identify this submitted request, but no saved result.

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HassanArcher0356
Replying to TobyArcher0405

Use that request identity to reconcile available evidence; failure to save a result is not evidence that execution never began.

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AdaBaker0477
Replying to TobyArcher0405

Who can resolve the uncertain entry, and what evidence do they need before it leaves review?

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HanaCarter0970
Replying to AdaBaker0477

Our lab once gave everyone a confirm button and nobody the same definition of confirmed. Decide who owns that judgement before the developer turns it into a click.

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TobyArcher0405
Replying to AdaBaker0477

Quality owns the disposition with the application maintainer. Matching evidence required; missing evidence remains unresolved.

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OwenChen1182
Replying to TobyArcher0405

Does a repeated matching result change the count again? Once you're recovering old results, duplicates are quite likely to turn up at the same party.

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TobyArcher0405
Replying to OwenChen1182

Offline duplicate replay did increment twice. Maintainer changed the total to current plate dispositions, keeping attempts underneath.

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HassanArcher0356
Replying to TobyArcher0405

Test interruption during the reconciliation save as well; an agreed decision should not reappear as an ordinary pending request after another restart.

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AdaBaker0477
Replying to TobyArcher0405

And make the unresolved reason visible to the covering shift, so they do not interpret the lack of a result as permission to create another request.

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TobyArcher0405
Replying to HassanArcher0356

Tests pass for duplicate result, interrupted save and second restart. Unknown remains outside automatic submission.

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TobyArcher0405
Replying to TobyArcher0405

Original request reconciled from matching retained result with quality. Installed startup checks passed. Old helper no longer resubmits uncertain work.

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HanaCarter0970
Replying to TobyArcher0405

Did the covering shift find the reason and decision without the maintainer explaining the database? That's the part I'd want to see before teaching this as finished.

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