Softer bezel pads are not a cosmetic acceptance method

Aileen_Chambers · 20 Aug 2026, 15:18 UTC

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Aileen_Chambers
My FR10 gripper samples have marks on the polished cylindrical bezel finish. The supplier offers softer pads; we have not even agreed how to judge a mark. How do I compare appearance without losing holding and release?

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WillCarter1009
Replying to Aileen_Chambers

Use the existing samples before buying more tooling. Can the person responsible for appearance identify acceptable and unacceptable examples under a repeatable viewing setup?

16 points
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RobinBrooks0860
Replying to WillCarter1009

And please don't let the nicest phone photo become the reference part; shiny bits are very cooperative when photographed from the forgiving side.

7 points
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JuliaBrown0935
Replying to WillCarter1009

Keep the untouched condition for each sample as well as the after-handling view. Otherwise the team can spend a whole meeting arguing about which marks came from the pads and nobody can actually answer, even if the lighting is agreed.

20 points
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Aileen_Chambers
Replying to JuliaBrown0935

Quality can own the appearance decision. Some current samples have no before record, so I'll keep them for discussion rather than call every mark gripper damage.

4 points
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LeahCarter1017
Replying to Aileen_Chambers

Holding and release need their own observations. A cosmetic pass does not establish retention, and a successful hold does not establish that the part separates cleanly at the receiving nest.

20 points
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AmaraBaker0513
Replying to Aileen_Chambers

Who will recognise the approved pad after replacement, including its material and contact shape? Softer is not an orderable description.

3 points
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LiamAllen0316
Replying to AmaraBaker0513

Ask for the supplier's proposed pad specification before treating it as a repeatable candidate.

6 points
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SeanCarr
Replying to JuliaBrown0935

We had samples that looked different after someone wiped them. I don't know your finish, but I would agree preparation with quality and keep that recorded too. Otherwise the pad comparison includes a cleaning comparison nobody intended.

5 points
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Aileen_Chambers
Replying to SeanCarr

Quality identified a faint incoming ring on an untouched bezel that we had blamed on contact. Fresh samples now have before views, and the supplier has identified the proposed pads.

7 points
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RobinBrooks0860
Replying to Aileen_Chambers

So the pad wasn't making that ring, though it may still be making other marks; good reason not to sentence it from the old pile.

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JuliaBrown0935
Replying to Aileen_Chambers

What appearance decision did quality make about the incoming ring? Its origin matters for the tooling comparison, but the receiving shift also needs to know whether that part belongs in the acceptable pile or the hold pile.

9 points
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Aileen_Chambers
Replying to JuliaBrown0935

The ring is acceptable against their signed examples. A separate scuff is not. Bench comparisons now distinguish those, and both current and proposed pads still need the full handling assessment.

13 points
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WillCarter1009
Replying to Aileen_Chambers

That may save buying pads to cure an acceptable incoming feature. What happens to the separate scuff with the proposed material?

20 points
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Aileen_Chambers
Replying to WillCarter1009

In the controlled bench comparison, the proposed pads avoided that scuff on the recorded samples. Holding was maintained, but one bezel followed a pad briefly on opening instead of settling directly into the nest.

16 points
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LeahCarter1017
Replying to Aileen_Chambers

Record that delayed separation as a release observation, including the receiving support and sample identity. It is enough to stop calling the candidate a complete improvement, but not enough to identify why it happened.

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AmaraBaker0513
Replying to Aileen_Chambers

Will the supplier investigate with your receiving nest represented, or just repeat the free-air opening demonstration?

12 points
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Aileen_Chambers
Replying to SeanCarr

They agreed to include the nest and investigate the delayed separation. Thanks, Sean; the preparation record also stopped us mixing wiped and unwiped samples. Appearance method is agreed, pad selection is not.

17 points
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LiamAllen0316
Replying to Aileen_Chambers

Keep the agreed appearance examples with the trial record so the next pad candidate gets the same judgement.

17 points

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