the FR10 trim-plate examples have acquired scratch labels without inspection

CalebBrown0928 · 13 Oct 2025, 16:16 UTC

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CalebBrown0928
I'm preparing the FR10 inspection lesson. Bright lines move between pictures of the same brushed plate, yet the folder calls all of them scratches. Nobody has linked those lines to a physical inspection.

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YasminAdams0093
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Keep the original pictures, but have quality identify and judge the actual plate before using those defect labels; a moving highlight is useful evidence about the image setup, not a ready-made reject example.

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EllaBarnes0555
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Keep undecided separate from accepted and rejected. Otherwise somebody will force a label just to finish the folder sorting.

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BethBrooks0846
Replying to CalebBrown0928

We had a reference plate that picked up a new scratch during training. Everyone kept calling it the good one because that was written on its box. Whoever keeps your samples needs to check their condition, not only their number.

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EllaArcher0381
Replying to BethBrooks0846

Beth Brooks, how often did you check yours after that? Before every lesson, or when somebody noticed a change?

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JonasBrooks0807
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Caleb, do those different views use the same holder position?

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to JonasBrooks0807

Jonas, the temporary holder allows a slight tilt. Quality has the identified plate now, and Ella Barnes, its label stays undecided until they inspect it.

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HenryAli0177
Replying to CalebBrown0928

The holder review should establish repeatability across the intended part variation. Even a stable image of this single plate would not establish a suitable production presentation.

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ChrisBailey
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Do the files record the camera settings, or just the image names?

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NoraAllen0322
Replying to BethBrooks0846

Beth's example is why a physical reference set needs an owner and handling rules, not merely a nice spreadsheet; otherwise the lesson can quietly change while the slide deck stays identical.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to ChrisBailey

And keep the full images linked to any close-ups. We nearly argued about the wrong edge because every crop filled the screen. A recognisable hole or corner makes the defect location much easier to explain.

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BethBell0672
Replying to IsabelBennett0735

Don't annotate over the defect. Separate marked copy, original retained.

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ElliotBell0683
Replying to BethBell0672

Beth Bell, would you show the whole plate beside the close-up in training, so the loader can find the same place?

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BethBrooks0846
Replying to EllaArcher0381

Ella Archer, before use after that incident, with inspection owning the replacement decision. Nora, yes, we also stopped passing the reference around loose. People meant well and handled it like an ordinary sample.

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to ChrisBailey

Quality accepted the plate and retained a separate faint reject. Chris, settings were not saved for all old views. Henry, tooling is checking the holder range. New captures will record the setup.

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EllaBarnes0555
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Don't discard the failed old views just because their settings are incomplete. Mark the gaps and keep them out of tuning; they still explain why you restarted the comparison.

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BethBell0672
Replying to ElliotBell0683

Elliot, yes. Whole plate plus close-up. Easier than guessing which shiny corner the picture means.

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EllaArcher0381
Replying to BethBrooks0846

Thanks, Beth Brooks. I was thinking only about keeping the sample number attached, not checking whether the sample itself had changed.

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YasminAdams0093
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Caleb, did the holder check explain the tilt, or is it still waiting behind the image work?

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to YasminAdams0093

Tooling found the rim can catch one temporary support. Revised support is proposed, not fitted. The known reject stays in the repeat-image set; no threshold decision yet.

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JonasBrooks0807
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Check that revised support against the drawing variation, not only the two retained plates.

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