The counter congratulated us for inspecting the same plate again

RosaAdams0118 · 25 May 2025, 06:26 UTC

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RosaAdams0118
I was pleased with our FR10 inspection total until one of the students asked why the tray had fewer mounting plates than the screen. We had retried several pieces after review, then restarted the app, and the counter had treated more successful attempts as more accepted items. I'm using this to review the real batch records now. I want one accepted count for physical plates, but I also want the failed attempts left where we can see them. Has anyone untangled this without making the history look as though everything passed first time?

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JasperArcher0377
Replying to RosaAdams0118

Have you got a stable ID for each plate? With that, you can keep attempts attached to a plate and count its current accepted decision once. Without it, the software has no reliable way to know you inspected the same thing again.

18 points
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RosaAdams0118
Replying to JasperArcher0377

Yes, plate IDs are on every attempt. They're also in quality's register. The dashboard just adds successful rows, so the identity is there and doing absolutely no work.

8 points
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JasperArcher0377
Replying to RosaAdams0118

Use the current disposition per ID, then. Does quality ever put a passed plate back on hold? If so, any pass in its history won't be enough to decide whether it belongs in today's accepted count.

20 points
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AishaBarnes0605
Replying to RosaAdams0118

What exactly gets added at restart? Previously saved attempts, or new attempts created by the restart itself? Those would leave different problems in your records.

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JasperArcher0377
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

I'd like that answer too. Fixing the displayed sum won't clean up attempts that should never have been created.

12 points
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RosaAdams0118
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

Saved attempts are loaded, then the counter increments for each pass again. No new inspections ran. And yes, quality can put a plate back on hold after a pass.

19 points
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JasperArcher0377
Replying to RosaAdams0118

So reconstruct the count from the current item decisions at startup. Don't take yesterday's total and pour the old events into it again.

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ThomasBrown0886
Replying to RosaAdams0118

Our bracket dashboard had the same pass-history trap, including later holds; make the current reviewed disposition explicit instead of treating the latest successful test as acceptance.

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AnikaBrown0943
Replying to RosaAdams0118

Does the screen show those holds anywhere?

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JasperArcher0377
Replying to AnikaBrown0943

And can the operator open the attempt history from that plate? They shouldn't have to choose between an honest item count and finding out why something is held.

14 points
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RosaAdams0118
Replying to JasperArcher0377

There's a history page, but it opens for the whole batch. Holds only show in quality's register. I've asked for per-plate history and the current decision on the same row.

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AishaBarnes0605
Replying to RosaAdams0118

Where will that current decision come from? If the dashboard has its own copy, you also need to know when it was last updated from quality's register.

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RosaAdams0118
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

The developer is using the reviewed disposition records directly. We've agreed to show unknown if they can't be read, rather than rebuilding acceptance from the test rows.

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AnikaBrown0943
Replying to RosaAdams0118

Unknown beats another imaginary finished plate

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JasperArcher0377
Replying to RosaAdams0118

Try a pass followed by hold, then restart. That's a small example which should expose both of the mistakes you've found, without needing to rerun a whole physical batch.

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ThomasBrown0886
Replying to JasperArcher0377

Also include an item with two reviewed retries and a final acceptance, so retaining its complete history does not add multiple accepted items.

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RosaAdams0118
Replying to ThomasBrown0886

Both examples now count correctly in the offline test. History still has the original failures and retries. I was relieved to see the numbers get smaller for once.

14 points
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AishaBarnes0605
Replying to RosaAdams0118

Have you compared the full saved batch with quality's reconciled list yet? Small examples are useful, but the existing records may contain another case nobody remembered to model.

1 points
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RosaAdams0118
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

That comparison matches too, including plates on hold. Workshop rollout still pending. The students have requested credit for noticing that a tray is not the same thing as a dashboard.

1 points
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JasperArcher0377
Replying to RosaAdams0118

Fair request from the students. Keep their original counter example in the checks; it caught a real mistake that all the happy-path demonstrations missed.

23 points

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