Have packaging rejected those positions, or have you found a gap they haven't assessed? I wouldn't call every gap a failure without their carton support requirements.
Cannot choose a layer while the carton supports sit over gaps
ReeceArcher0384 · 23 Sept 2025, 23:29 UTC
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We lost a changeover sheet after revising a pattern. Whatever gets agreed here, make the operator's layer picture part of the same update.
18 pointsOliver, not assessed. The support direction is specified; allowance across these gaps isn't.
5 pointsThen the next decision belongs with packaging. I would not fill that gap in the requirement with a visual judgement
-6 pointsExactly. Reece, are the fingers the reason for leaving those spaces, or did the pattern already have them?
2 pointsHenry, who updates the operator picture on your jobs? We've had three departments each assume the other one printed it.
2 pointsProduction engineering owns ours now. Trainer checks the issued picture against the approved pattern during handover. It used to be whoever noticed the old copy first.
3 pointsOliver, even if the fingers need the gap, that does not settle how much support the carton needs. Both people have to work on the same arrangement
7 pointsI know. I'm asking what can change. If the gaps are arbitrary, packaging may have an easier starting point than if the whole tool relies on them.
-1 pointsThe proposed fingers need them. Tooling also offered fewer cartons per layer as an alternative, not assessed yet.
15 pointsHenry, thanks. A named owner is the missing bit for us, not another printer. Reece, have dispatch priced the extra pallet handling for that alternative?
10 pointsI'd keep the lower-count option alive even before that price comes back. A tool that's awkward to maintain has a cost too, though I can't tell which proposal wins here.
3 pointsHenry, I'd price both together. Dispatch can have very little spare floor space even when an extra pallet looks cheap on a sheet.
13 pointsAnd the lower-count arrangement still needs its own support assessment. Fewer cartons does not automatically improve every contact underneath
9 pointsOliver, agreed. Our workstation review once gained an extra pallet and lost the operator's turning space. Neither change appeared in the robot drawing.
13 pointsI meant keep it available for comparison, not order it. Your floor-space point is fair, Oliver. Maintenance isn't the only person who has to live around it.
6 pointsReece, has anyone considered the short-order case in either option? A partial pallet may be a routine job rather than an exception in your department.
15 pointsShort orders are common. No answer on those yet, or Emma's handling-cost question. Both alternatives remain open.
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