our carton pattern has a hole under the heavy end

Ian_Briggs · 9 Mar 2026, 16:12 UTC

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Ian_Briggs
Top view looked fine. Section shows gaps under the turned cartons' supported ends. UR5e proposal, still on paper.

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ChloeAdams0135
Replying to Ian_Briggs

Ask packaging to assess the filled carton against that section, with tooling present. A better top view will not settle the missing support.

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Ian_Briggs
Replying to ChloeAdams0135

They have the section. Tooling had drawn the layer below as solid.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to Ian_Briggs

Draw the real lower layer first. Then compare the fingers through placement and withdrawal. No point approving support which occupies the same space as the tool.

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IsabelAbbott0039
Replying to Ian_Briggs

Include the incomplete last layer, Ian, because dispatch will have to finish actual orders rather than only the repeating arrangement.

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Ian_Briggs
Replying to IsabelAbbott0039

Added two normal short orders. Different endings, same carton.

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TheoBennett0758
Replying to Ian_Briggs

Keep those endings identifiable in the operator brief. A single picture labelled normal pallet is not enough if the orders finish differently.

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ChloeAdams0135
Replying to IsabelBennett0735

Our alternative supported the carton but still trapped the tool beside a returned partial pallet. Has yours included that access, or only new builds?

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Ian_Briggs
Replying to ChloeAdams0135

New builds only here. We do not resume returned pallets on this proposed job.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to Ian_Briggs

Useful boundary. Put it in the proposal so nobody quietly adds returns once the station exists.

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IsabelAbbott0039
Replying to IsabelBennett0735

Isabel Bennett, I would avoid making that an eternal ban; Ian can define the current scope without predicting every later assessed change.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to IsabelAbbott0039

Current scope, yes. I meant no unnoticed addition.

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Ian_Briggs
Replying to Ian_Briggs

Packaging rejected the turned positions. Straight-row alternative is drawn with both short-order endings now.

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TheoBennett0758
Replying to Ian_Briggs

Who is checking the extra pallet handling that creates?

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Ian_Briggs
Replying to TheoBennett0758

Dispatch. Their estimate includes more pallet exchanges but no rebuilding of awkward final layers.

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IsabelAbbott0039
Replying to Ian_Briggs

Have they checked where the extra pallet waits, Ian, rather than only counting the exchanges?

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Ian_Briggs
Replying to IsabelAbbott0039

Not yet. That space is the remaining argument before we choose the alternative.

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ChloeAdams0135
Replying to Ian_Briggs

Keep the straight-row price provisional until that is settled. A waiting place can bring its own work.

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