Measure the manual job first. Include preparation and clearing, so the robot trial starts and ends at the same points.
Cannot agree our UR5e pilot while fixture labour is a guess
OscarBarnes0532 · 10 Jun 2026, 14:24 UTC
20 replies
Have timings for placing the housing only. Getting them from boxes and changing the fixture were outside the stopwatch. Convenient for my proposal.
12 pointsWhat fixture are you actually proposing to build?
8 pointsOne nest for the current housing. No interchangeable inserts planned yet. Toolroom has seen the part but hasn't quoted.
1 pointsGet a simple nest concept priced before the robot demonstration. Otherwise a successful pickup can leave you committed to tooling whose cost you still don't know.
13 pointsAnd agree which question the pilot answers. Or, more precisely, what result would change your colleague's mind and what result would change yours. Without both, the same footage may feed another argument.
5 pointsHe wants someone else to operate it without calling me. I want to see lower total hands-on time. Neither of us has written a threshold.
10 pointsWrite both down with him. The independent operator needs training time included, not just an invitation to watch the demo.
18 pointsWho deals with a housing that doesn't seat?
15 pointsCurrently that would be me. Recovery is missing from the trial outline. I'll include the agreed escalation and assistance record.
18 pointsGive the pilot a spending and staff-hour limit too. You can stop at that limit and decide whether the unanswered question deserves another trial, instead of silently extending this one.
12 pointsOscar, are these 202 a representative product mix, or just the easiest housing? That changes what you can infer even from a well-recorded result.
5 pointsOne current housing type. I won't claim a result for future variants. That's already one promise removed from the draft.
18 pointsThen keep the trial nest simple. Future variants can get their own tooling decision.
23 pointsSimple is fine. Still identify its drawing and contacts, so the person running it knows which setup was assessed.
8 pointsColleague and I agreed the trial scope and authority to stop. Tooling quote still outstanding. We haven't booked it or bought an arm.
0 pointsGood place to wait. A toolroom price can change the decision without anyone needing to prove the robot incapable of moving a housing.
23 pointsWill you record your own assistance time in the same way as everyone else's? Founder enthusiasm can be surprisingly hard to find on a cost sheet.
6 pointsYes, mine too. No founder here, just the person who volunteered everybody's hours. Thanks for making the support question measurable.
1 pointsPost the fixture quote when you can compare it with that scope. Interested whether the pilot still looks worthwhile to both of you.
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