Cannot agree our UR5e pilot while fixture labour is a guess

OscarBarnes0532 · 10 Jun 2026, 14:24 UTC

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OscarBarnes0532
I priced the UR5e and gripper for 202 connector housings. My colleague asked what the fixtures and our time would cost. Silence, a highly competitive quotation. We need a bounded pilot before buying. What should we both agree to measure?

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GraceAllen0320
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

Measure the manual job first. Include preparation and clearing, so the robot trial starts and ends at the same points.

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OscarBarnes0532
Replying to GraceAllen0320

Have timings for placing the housing only. Getting them from boxes and changing the fixture were outside the stopwatch. Convenient for my proposal.

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LucyBarnes0567
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

What fixture are you actually proposing to build?

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OscarBarnes0532
Replying to LucyBarnes0567

One nest for the current housing. No interchangeable inserts planned yet. Toolroom has seen the part but hasn't quoted.

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AnilBell0636
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

Get a simple nest concept priced before the robot demonstration. Otherwise a successful pickup can leave you committed to tooling whose cost you still don't know.

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LouisChan1094
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

And agree which question the pilot answers. Or, more precisely, what result would change your colleague's mind and what result would change yours. Without both, the same footage may feed another argument.

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OscarBarnes0532
Replying to LouisChan1094

He wants someone else to operate it without calling me. I want to see lower total hands-on time. Neither of us has written a threshold.

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GraceAllen0320
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

Write both down with him. The independent operator needs training time included, not just an invitation to watch the demo.

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LucyBarnes0567
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

Who deals with a housing that doesn't seat?

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OscarBarnes0532
Replying to LucyBarnes0567

Currently that would be me. Recovery is missing from the trial outline. I'll include the agreed escalation and assistance record.

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AnilBell0636
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

Give the pilot a spending and staff-hour limit too. You can stop at that limit and decide whether the unanswered question deserves another trial, instead of silently extending this one.

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LouisChan1094
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

Oscar, are these 202 a representative product mix, or just the easiest housing? That changes what you can infer even from a well-recorded result.

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OscarBarnes0532
Replying to LouisChan1094

One current housing type. I won't claim a result for future variants. That's already one promise removed from the draft.

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LucyBarnes0567
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

Then keep the trial nest simple. Future variants can get their own tooling decision.

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GraceAllen0320
Replying to LucyBarnes0567

Simple is fine. Still identify its drawing and contacts, so the person running it knows which setup was assessed.

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OscarBarnes0532
Replying to AnilBell0636

Colleague and I agreed the trial scope and authority to stop. Tooling quote still outstanding. We haven't booked it or bought an arm.

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AnilBell0636
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

Good place to wait. A toolroom price can change the decision without anyone needing to prove the robot incapable of moving a housing.

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LouisChan1094
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

Will you record your own assistance time in the same way as everyone else's? Founder enthusiasm can be surprisingly hard to find on a cost sheet.

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OscarBarnes0532
Replying to LouisChan1094

Yes, mine too. No founder here, just the person who volunteered everybody's hours. Thanks for making the support question measurable.

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GraceAllen0320
Replying to OscarBarnes0532

Post the fixture quote when you can compare it with that scope. Interested whether the pilot still looks worthwhile to both of you.

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