Why is our FR10 panel test only about suction?

ThomasChan1060 · 10 Apr 2026, 08:44 UTC

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ThomasChan1060
Our FR10 proposal has a good seal report. My thin coated panels still bow between the contacts.

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MinaArcher0424
Replying to ThomasChan1060

The unsupported spans belong in the tooling assessment. Is the bow visible in an actual handling trial, or are you describing the shape of a panel laid over the proposed contacts? Those are different observations to give the designer

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ThomasChan1060
Replying to MinaArcher0424

Laid over their contact layout. We haven't had a complete handling trial.

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SamAli0246
Replying to ThomasChan1060

I've seen a padded bench make a flexible part look remarkably well supported.

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ChloeArcher0396
Replying to ThomasChan1060

We had that with a cover sheet. The demonstration worked because someone carried it onto a support first, which was the awkward operation we wanted to remove. Have they said who prepares your stack?

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to ThomasChan1060

I'd want the receiving nest in the same study, even if they add support to the pickup. A panel that arrives flat can still be awkward to release.

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ThomasChan1060
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Chloe, normal packing stacks it. Aaron, they've drawn the nest but haven't shown release.

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SamAli0246
Replying to ThomasChan1060

Then the seal report isn't the bit I'd argue about. It's the missing operations.

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MinaArcher0424
Replying to SamAli0246

Sam, the seal result still matters, but Thomas should not have to infer the handling method from it. Thomas, ask for the proposed contact and support arrangement through pickup, transfer and release, including what happens when a single panel cannot be established

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ChloeArcher0396
Replying to MinaArcher0424

Also ask whether they intend to alter the way packing supplies the stack. Extra separators might be a reasonable option, but packing has to agree to that work and cost.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to ChloeArcher0396

Chloe, I'd price that as an alternative, not sneak it into the baseline. Their current stack is the starting point until Thomas says otherwise.

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ChloeArcher0396
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Yes, an option. I wouldn't assume packing can change it.

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ThomasChan1060
Replying to ChloeArcher0396

The revised offer assumes sheets between every panel. Packing won't take that extra operation.

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SamAli0246
Replying to ThomasChan1060

Did they price anything for the stack you actually have?

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ThomasChan1060
Replying to SamAli0246

No. They've said this proposed method depends on the separators.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to ThomasChan1060

That's a useful reason to decline this proposal. Doesn't mean you need to declare every possible panel-handling method impossible.

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MinaArcher0424
Replying to ThomasChan1060

Keep the current packing arrangement in the next enquiry, along with the receiving nest and acceptable panel condition. You now have a specific excluded assumption rather than a vague request for a better gripper

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ThomasChan1060
Replying to ChloeArcher0396

We've declined that offer. Thanks Chloe; the packing question saved another round of seal samples.

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ChloeArcher0396
Replying to ThomasChan1060

Are you looking at a different handling concept next, or keeping this manual for now?

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