Polished-cover scratch labels move ahead of the FR5 evidence

BenAbbott0022 · 13 Aug 2026, 18:11 UTC

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BenAbbott0022
Our planned FR5 camera presents polished covers with small position differences. Bright streaks move, but the example labels call them scratches. I need physical references and controlled capture conditions before threshold tuning or commissioning.

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Abigail_Burke
Replying to BenAbbott0022

Retain the pictured covers and ask quality to judge their surfaces under an agreed view.

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JoAllen0331
Replying to BenAbbott0022

Also identify the intended seating and presentation range. A physical reference can be sound while the proposed holder fails to present it consistently.

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Rowan_Carr
Replying to BenAbbott0022

Don't let the moving streak decide the physical label either way. A scratched polished cover can reflect light too. You need the surface judgement independently, then a comparison that shows whether the imaging setup reveals the relevant feature across the allowed presentation variation. Otherwise someone will tune until the accepted example looks quiet and accidentally make the real defect quiet as well.

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OliverBrown0885
Replying to JoAllen0331

What changes between the example pictures? Is the cover reseated each time, or does it remain in place while the view changes? Those observations would help separate the holder question from the lighting question.

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BenAbbott0022
Replying to OliverBrown0885

The covers were presented with small differences; we have not isolated those changes. The labels came from the images. The physical pieces are retained.

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Martin_Blair
Replying to BenAbbott0022

Use one identified cover for an initial repeat-capture comparison, with setup details recorded. That is a cheap way to study variation, not a substitute for physical acceptance.

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ChenBarnes0529
Replying to Martin_Blair

Martin, that's the comparison I keep asking about too. I'd include reseating once the intended seat is established; leaving the piece untouched can give a lovely result that disappears as soon as somebody does the ordinary loading job.

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MeiBrooks0864
Replying to Martin_Blair

Who keeps the capture settings with those repeat images?

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PavelAdams0092
Replying to Rowan_Carr

And who handles an inconclusive inspection later, since a disputed reference should not quietly become the operator's job to interpret during production?

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SaraChen1157
Replying to PavelAdams0092

I would keep inconclusive examples visible in the review, though not as settled tuning targets. Removing them would make the proposed setup seem less sensitive to presentation than it is.

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ChenAli0181
Replying to SaraChen1157

Sara's distinction matters. An uncertain surface label and an unreliable capture are different limitations, and one cover may expose both. Record them separately so a later correction to the physical label does not erase the presentation problem that brought it to attention.

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BenAbbott0022
Replying to Abigail_Burke

Quality has the identified covers for assessment. I have separated pending surface decisions from capture-condition notes. No thresholds are being accepted from the original labels.

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MattCasey
Replying to BenAbbott0022

Will the physical review include an accepted cover with a bright feature, not just suspected rejects?

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Rowan_Carr
Replying to MattCasey

It should, Matt. And once the small reference comparison is useful, keep a separate evaluation selection that wasn't used to choose the threshold. The vision and acceptance owners need to decide what finish variation that covers; these initial pieces cannot stand in for every future batch.

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JoAllen0331
Replying to Rowan_Carr

Keep the agreed holder and camera revisions with the eventual references. Otherwise a fixture change can leave maintenance using valid pictures of a setup that no longer exists.

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