I cannot maintain our FR10 spacer transfer by editing another pickup point

LouisBell0659 · 1 Aug 2026, 08:09 UTC

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LouisBell0659
Our FR10 fixture-to-tray spacer transfer is unreliable again, with a less square grip and a tray that looks unchanged; what inspection sequence would give maintenance a cause to work on before we reteach or blame the arm?

19 replies

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EllaArcher0381
Replying to LouisBell0659

Is the spacer angled against the finger contacts, or is the entire tool visibly angled relative to the tray? That would help define the first observation.

16 points
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DanielBarnes0565
Replying to LouisBell0659

Preserve the pickup revisions and inspect identified spacers, tray seats, finger contacts and mounting under the maintenance procedure. I have suggested that combination before because the physical finding without the compensation history leaves the next person half a story.

14 points
JO
JonasCarter0981
Replying to DanielBarnes0565

I'd photograph the as-found arrangement before somebody cleans or reseats things. On another spacer job I had to go back and record a finger reseating as well as the other change; otherwise the comparison sounded much more decisive than it was.

25 points
LO
LouisBell0659
Replying to EllaArcher0381

The spacer looks angled in the fingers, Ella, but I haven't compared the whole tool to a reference yet

15 points
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OwenAbbott0051
Replying to LouisBell0659

That narrows what you see, not the cause. Ask tooling to compare actual contacts with the intended assembly before selecting a replacement component.

8 points
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EllaArcher0381
Replying to LouisBell0659

Does the same spacer sit differently on successive pickups, or are you comparing different pieces?

11 points
LO
LouisBell0659
Replying to EllaArcher0381

Different pieces in ordinary work, so I can't separate part variation from seating repeatability on those observations

22 points
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DanielBarnes0565
Replying to LouisBell0659

Then use an identified set for an agreed comparison. Record which piece, which tray location, which tool setup and which program revision each observation belongs to. It is more paperwork than saying crooked, but it gives maintenance something they can reproduce and challenge.

7 points
JO
JonasCarter0981
Replying to DanielBarnes0565

Daniel, would you include tray removal and replacement straight away? That's where a normal run can look fine while the next shift inherits something different. I'm asking about the comparison scope, not telling Louis to keep cycling a suspect setup.

3 points
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OwenAbbott0051
Replying to JonasCarter0981

After the initial inspection determines what can be tested. A changeover comparison is useful, but it cannot replace deciding whether the present assembly is fit for that check.

10 points
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LouisBell0659
Replying to OwenAbbott0051

Tooling has requested the intended finger assembly drawing before choosing what to measure; our handover only identifies the gripper model

13 points
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DanielBarnes0565
Replying to LouisBell0659

That explains why the comparison is stuck, though not why the grip changed. Can the original tool supplier identify the fitted finger arrangement from the available drawings and external details? A generic gripper document is unlikely to settle the contact geometry.

8 points
EL
EllaArcher0381
Replying to LouisBell0659

Who has the earlier as-built information? The integrator may hold it even if maintenance never received it.

15 points
LO
LouisBell0659
Replying to EllaArcher0381

The integrator sent an earlier finger drawing, but it does not match every visible detail on the fitted set, so tooling is checking which revision we actually have

7 points
JO
JonasCarter0981
Replying to LouisBell0659

That mismatch belongs in the maintenance notes. Don't quietly relabel the fitted fingers with the drawing's number because it's the only number available. It could be a legitimate later change with a missing handover, but somebody needs to establish that.

13 points
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OwenAbbott0051
Replying to JonasCarter0981

Exactly. A document mismatch is an unresolved configuration question, not proof the fingers themselves are defective.

6 points
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DanielBarnes0565
Replying to LouisBell0659

Has the physical inspection found anything independent of the drawing question, such as a recorded seating difference? Keep those observations moving where the approved procedure allows it, rather than waiting for the paperwork to explain every possible feature.

21 points
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LouisBell0659
Replying to DanielBarnes0565

No definite physical fault has been reported yet; the configuration comparison remains open, and I've asked maintenance to retain the as-found results separately from that enquiry

11 points
EL
EllaArcher0381
Replying to LouisBell0659

Will the eventual revision answer reach the people teaching the points too? They need to know which assembly any future comparison uses.

11 points

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