Cannot assign the FR10 bracket acknowledgement after our application reused the label

IsaacBrooks0868 · 24 Dec 2025, 04:10 UTC

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IsaacBrooks0868
I am leaving this bracket verification unresolved. The FR10 application's job label appears before and after its restart, and the acknowledgement could belong to either attempt because the PLC and application clocks disagree. I know not to resume from a saved number alone. Here I need to explain the gap to support without choosing whichever timestamp makes the retry look successful.

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NoraAli0235
Replying to IsaacBrooks0868

Can the session boundary separate the attempts, even though the job label repeats?

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IsaacBrooks0868
Replying to NoraAli0235

In the application log, yes. The PLC acknowledgement has no session identity from that application.

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IsaacAllen0346
Replying to IsaacBrooks0868

I'd show those as two attempts straight away. Calling them one job in the summary will have everyone arguing from the wrong starting point.

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JaneAllen0336
Replying to IsaacBrooks0868

Retain the original logs and mark the acknowledgement unassigned. The within-source order may still be useful even where the clocks cannot be aligned reliably.

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NoraAli0235
Replying to IsaacBrooks0868

Is there a shared event that could anchor the clocks, without assuming this acknowledgement is it?

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IsaacBrooks0868
Replying to NoraAli0235

No reliable shared event found. There is a screen recording, but it begins after the application restarted and shows only the reused label.

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RaviBarnes0563
Replying to IsaacBrooks0868

Can the support summary show what is known about the physical bracket separately from what is known about each software attempt?

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JaneAllen0336
Replying to RaviBarnes0563

Ravi, that would help, provided the physical observation has its own source and time; the reused label should not be allowed to assign that observation by itself.

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NoraAli0235
Replying to JaneAllen0336

And leave the missing part visible. A complete-looking timeline can be very persuasive nonsense.

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IsaacBrooks0868
Replying to JaneAllen0336

Ravi and Jane, the technician recorded the bracket identity after the restart, but not its condition before it. Both limits are shown separately beside the two attempts.

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IsaacAllen0346
Replying to IsaacBrooks0868

That's clearer than joining the logs into one sorted list. I keep seeing the prettiest chart win arguments it shouldn't even be entered in.

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RaviBarnes0563
Replying to IsaacBrooks0868

Who will decide whether more evidence can resolve the old event, rather than leaving the next shift to guess?

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IsaacBrooks0868
Replying to RaviBarnes0563

The integrator is reviewing it with our software maintainer. They have the originals and the unassigned acknowledgement; no conclusion returned yet.

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NoraAli0235
Replying to IsaacBrooks0868

Have they proposed distinct attempt identities for future restarts, while the old event stays open?

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