Our FR10 bezel examples move the scratch between pictures

NaomiBaker0506 · 5 Apr 2026, 03:59 UTC

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NaomiBaker0506
One bezel, three bright streak positions, all labelled scratch. I've asked quality to judge the retained part before the supplier tunes our planned FR10 inspection around these pictures; the quotation currently treats the image set as agreed, which it isn't.

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QuinnBriggs
Replying to NaomiBaker0506

Can you tie all three pictures to that one retained bezel? I had several confident answers to that question on a recent comparison, none of them the same.

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NaomiBaker0506
Replying to QuinnBriggs

Yes. Same engraved sample reference visible in all three uncropped captures, and quality has that bezel. The arrows were added by the person assembling the presentation.

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Diane_Bailey
Replying to NaomiBaker0506

Remove those defect labels until quality has judged the indicated areas.

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NinaCarter1023
Replying to NaomiBaker0506

What changes between the captures, Naomi? I've seen someone straighten a sample for a nicer photo and quietly change the very thing the trial was meant to compare.

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LeoCarter0971
Replying to NinaCarter1023

Our teaching bench had a bright band from a nearby screen. We kept calling it a camera problem until someone moved the screen. Keep the presentation and surroundings with each capture, even if the first explanation looks obvious.

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ChenBrown0877
Replying to Diane_Bailey

And withdraw the shared labelled copy. We had to do that with a cover lesson; fixing my own folder didn't fix anybody else's.

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RosaAdams0118
Replying to ChenBrown0877

Chen, yes, though I would keep the original as an example of why it was withdrawn. Not leave it in the teaching set, I mean preserve enough that the next tutor understands the change.

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LiamBrooks0838
Replying to NaomiBaker0506

Have the camera specialist repeat the accepted presentation range with judged parts. The eventual operator needs an arrangement they can reproduce, including after changeover. An individual finding the flattering angle is not a useful setup instruction.

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BethBarnes0585
Replying to LiamBrooks0838

Liam, agreed, but don't make the first comparison harder than it needs to be. I'd start with the same bezel, camera and lamp and change the presentation deliberately while quality watches what happens to the indicated areas. Then repeat with an actual defect example. That gives the optical person something concrete to work with. If everything moves at once, you can spend an afternoon proving that shiny metal is shiny. I've managed that particular achievement myself.

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AnikaBennett0769
Replying to NaomiBaker0506

Naomi, put the unresolved imaging work back in the quote too, or this afternoon somehow becomes your technician's free contribution

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YasminAdams0093
Replying to NaomiBaker0506

Has quality found a physical mark at any of those three arrows, Naomi, or is that still awaiting examination?

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NaomiBaker0506
Replying to YasminAdams0093

No mark at those arrows. Quality accepted the bezel and supplied a separately identified scratched reject. Nina, the original pictures used slightly different tilt. We repeated that with the camera specialist: the bright band moved; the reject's scratch remained on the same physical region.

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EricBowen
Replying to NaomiBaker0506

Can the proposed setup show that reject throughout the presentation range, Naomi? I am interested because a reference picture can look clear while a slightly different seated part is difficult to judge

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LiamBrooks0838
Replying to BethBarnes0585

Beth, your smaller comparison was a better starting point than my whole changeover exercise. Eric's question is the next test now that quality has established what the parts actually contain.

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NinaCarter1023
Replying to NaomiBaker0506

Thanks for answering the tilt question. That is useful detail, not somebody declaring the camera fixed.

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NaomiBaker0506
Replying to EricBowen

Eric, not throughout the range yet. The specialist is revising the lighting arrangement. We withdrew the labelled presentation and changed the quote to include this work; no threshold settings have been accepted.

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