Which support detail should we include in the FR5 layer review?

Ivan_Bailey · 5 Aug 2025, 07:15 UTC

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Ivan_Bailey
I compared our pallet drawing with a packed carton section. The rotated layer puts an internal support over a gap, although the outer boxes overlap. What should packaging and tooling review together before we accept the pattern?

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RaviCarter0998
Replying to Ivan_Bailey

Have packaging marked the required contact area under that internal support?

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Ivan_Bailey
Replying to RaviCarter0998

They have now. It is narrower than the full carton end but still crosses the proposed gap. Tooling uses that gap for withdrawal.

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RaviCarter0998
Replying to Ivan_Bailey

Then compare changed positions with the tool present. Closing the gap alone isn't an answer.

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ChloeBaker0483
Replying to Ivan_Bailey

Use the actual carton orientation in the review, including the label side. Dispatch may have a reason for wanting it visible, but that needs discussing alongside support and access.

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Ivan_Bailey
Replying to ChloeBaker0483

Dispatch wants the label visible from the aisle. Two alternative orientations meet that. Packaging and tooling are comparing those instead of the original rotated layer.

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TobyBaker0492
Replying to Ivan_Bailey

Will either orientation leave room to remove a damaged carton? I would put that question on the wider access review, even if it is not what decides the normal pattern.

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RaviCarter0998
Replying to TobyBaker0492

Useful to include, but not a reason to retain the unsupported arrangement.

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Ivan_Bailey
Replying to RaviCarter0998

Agreed. Original arrangement is withdrawn. One alternative is clear in the tool study; the other needs a different placement order. Neither has a filled-stack result yet.

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FionaAli0238
Replying to Ivan_Bailey

I would like to hear how the first alternative does with filled cartons. We've had a lot of convincing drawings discussed here; the actual packed stack is where the interesting disagreements tend to arrive.

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Ivan_Bailey
Replying to FionaAli0238

Trial arranged with production cartons. Packaging asked for the partial last layer as well. Access review includes damaged-carton handling separately, Toby.

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FionaAli0238
Replying to Ivan_Bailey

Did the trial happen, Ivan? Curious whether the partial layer changed anybody's preference.

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Ivan_Bailey
Replying to FionaAli0238

Full layer passed the agreed packaging trial. Partial layer needs a revised arrangement, so we are not releasing the complete pattern yet. Tooling is reviewing the partial-layer change.

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ChloeBaker0483
Replying to Ivan_Bailey

Keep that partial-layer restriction in the proposal people price. Otherwise the full-layer pass becomes the entire answer by the time it reaches purchasing.

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