Our UR5e support section now leaves two quite different packing options

GabrielBrown0888 · 17 Dec 2025, 18:40 UTC

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GabrielBrown0888
The section through our turned carton shows the stiffener above the finger gap clearly. Widening the gap was no answer. We now have a lower-count pattern and a sheet-supported option on the table. I need dispatch's extra work compared with support and tool access, not whichever drawing wins the next meeting.

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FelixBaker0458
Replying to GabrielBrown0888

What work differs between the two options in the proposals you already have? Name that before reducing it to a single extra-handling allowance.

7 points
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GabrielBrown0888
Replying to FelixBaker0458

The lower-count option creates more pallets for our usual order size. The sheet option adds sheet supply and replenishment. Neither proposal includes a complete partial-order route.

18 points
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LeahAli0234
Replying to GabrielBrown0888

More pallets can mean more than another forklift trip. On our shift it also meant more wrapping and labels, then more floor space waiting for collection. Put the real order through both options before calling that one the simple version.

21 points
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CallumChan1056
Replying to LeahAli0234

Leah, yes, although some of that work may already happen per order rather than per pallet. Gabriel needs his dispatch method, not all of our overheads added together.

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GabrielBrown0888
Replying to CallumChan1056

Our wrapping and labels are per pallet, Callum. Collection booking is per order. We have that split in the present dispatch timings, so it can stay visible in the comparison.

11 points
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ChloeCarter1005
Replying to GabrielBrown0888

We used a marked floor plan to compare a proposed refill trolley before asking for detailed layout work; the sheet option could be checked against your actual dispatch routes in the same way, without assuming a trolley already fits.

19 points
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FelixBaker0458
Replying to ChloeCarter1005

Chloe, useful. Gabriel, is a sheet feeder included, or is somebody expected to place the sheets by hand? Those are quite different proposals.

15 points
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GabrielBrown0888
Replying to FelixBaker0458

A feeder is proposed. It still needs a person to replenish it. The quotation says customer supplied sheet stock and does not describe where that stock waits.

3 points
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LeahAli0234
Replying to GabrielBrown0888

That's the space I'd mark first. We once had a refill plan that worked beautifully after moving the pallet everyone actually used for returns.

14 points
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CallumChan1056
Replying to LeahAli0234

Leah, was moving the returns pallet rejected, or was the extra movement simply never costed? Sometimes moving it is sensible, provided somebody admits it is part of the change.

9 points
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LeahAli0234
Replying to CallumChan1056

Never costed in the first version. It was workable later, with a different returns position and a longer walk. I should have said that, not made it sound impossible.

2 points
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ChloeCarter1005
Replying to LeahAli0234

That is why I like the early floor-plan comparison; Gabriel can expose a dependency cheaply before anyone commits to a feeder location.

24 points
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GabrielBrown0888
Replying to ChloeCarter1005

Our dispatch plan includes the current returns position. I can ask for both candidate routes against it. No proposal to move returns has been made here.

8 points
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FelixBaker0458
Replying to GabrielBrown0888

What are the support assumptions for the sheet itself? Its material and construction need to be defined for packaging's review, not just a thin rectangle in the layer drawing.

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GabrielBrown0888
Replying to FelixBaker0458

Only a nominal sheet outline is shown. Packaging has not approved a material or construction. The feeder offer assumes the sheet will be specified by us.

18 points
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CallumChan1056
Replying to GabrielBrown0888

Then that option has a real development dependency. I would price the work needed to answer it, not pretend the feeder's price buys a complete support solution.

14 points
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LeahAli0234
Replying to GabrielBrown0888

And ask what an incomplete order does with the next sheet. The feeder should not be the only thing that knows which layer it thinks comes next.

11 points
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GabrielBrown0888
Replying to LeahAli0234

That is absent too, Leah. The sequence drawing only covers repeating full layers. I am adding partial orders to the same review request, not making a separate operator workaround.

3 points
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FelixBaker0458
Replying to GabrielBrown0888

Keep the lower-count option in that review. It may cost more in dispatch but still avoid work and uncertainty elsewhere. The comparison should be allowed to choose it.

18 points
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GabrielBrown0888
Replying to FelixBaker0458

It remains a live option. Thank you Leah for separating the returns example from our layout; I nearly copied the relocation into our list as though somebody here had proposed it.

10 points

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