How do I price the pallet layer that packaging will actually accept?

AaronChen1132 · 5 Feb 2026, 17:04 UTC

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AaronChen1132
Our UR5e quote prices an alternating layer. Packaging won't accept the turned cartons over unsupported gaps. I want the straight-row option priced with tool access, not just fewer boxes drawn in.

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LuisAbbott0086
Replying to AaronChen1132

We once asked for a lower-count option and got the same price with a smaller picture. Ask which parts of the work change: tool, cycle, pallet exchange and any extra packing work. That gives purchasing something they can compare.

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WillAdams0139
Replying to AaronChen1132

Include the extra pallets. Not to kill the simpler option, just to stop that cost turning up as a surprise afterwards.

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SarahBaker0502
Replying to WillAdams0139

And the space for them. Pallets don't queue politely off the drawing.

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PriyaBennett0742
Replying to AaronChen1132

Has packaging accepted straight rows, or is that still a candidate?

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AaronChen1132
Replying to PriyaBennett0742

Candidate until this morning. Packaging has now accepted the straight rows for our packed carton and specified layer limit. I've sent that exact arrangement for the revised quote.

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JamesBlair
Replying to AaronChen1132

I would keep a picture of the packed carton underside with it. The word straight does not tell a new tooling designer which strips need support. We lost that detail between a packaging conversation and a drawing once.

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SofiaChan1065
Replying to JamesBlair

James, yes, and show where the fingers leave rather than only where they hold, because that's the bit which disappears when people simplify the sketch

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StephanieBowen
Replying to SofiaChan1065

Check the assumptions in the simulation too. A carton drawn as a solid block cannot show the gaps or which parts of its underside bear on the layer below.

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DineshBaker0473
Replying to AaronChen1132

A support sheet would be another design choice, not an automatic cure for the turned layer.

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WillAdams0139
Replying to DineshBaker0473

Dinesh, agreed. I wouldn't add sheet handling just to protect the first drawing unless the numbers really justify it.

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AaronChen1132
Replying to AaronChen1132

Revised offer is back. Straight rows, changed withdrawal route, more pallet exchanges. Costs a little more per carton than the old quote claimed. That old quote never covered the support problem.

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LuisAbbott0086
Replying to AaronChen1132

What did your packer say about the exchanges? On ours the walking, not the extra pallet itself, changed the preferred layout.

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AaronChen1132
Replying to LuisAbbott0086

She wants the empty-pallet supply moved closer. That is included in the layout review now. Useful distinction, Luis. Her walking was missing from both supplier estimates.

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PriyaBennett0742
Replying to AaronChen1132

Will that new supply position obstruct the withdrawal route you just had checked?

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AaronChen1132
Replying to PriyaBennett0742

It doesn't; integrator checked the combined layout and demonstrated withdrawal on the agreed packed sample. We've chosen the straight-row proposal with the closer pallet supply. Smaller count, honest cost. Purchase decision made; commissioning still ahead.

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