rotated cartons leave the support behind

ElliotCarter1031 · 25 Jul 2026, 18:28 UTC

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ElliotCarter1031
I'm holding off on our UR5e pallet pattern. Alternating layers look neat, but some labelled dispatch cartons rotate across gaps in the layer below. They have a preferred support direction. I need packaging and tooling people looking at the same problem before I sign off this layout.

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JaneAli0249
Replying to ElliotCarter1031

Is the support direction shown on the pattern itself? A label in the carton specification tends to disappear when everyone gathers around a pallet picture.

5 points
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TheoBrown0932
Replying to ElliotCarter1031

Prepare a view of each layer over the one beneath. Indicate where the carton must be supported. The packaging reviewer should establish the acceptable support condition; visual overlap alone does not establish load capacity.

20 points
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DavidArcher0432
Replying to TheoBrown0932

That gets you half an answer, Theo. The fingers still need somewhere to go. I'd put their opening and withdrawal on those views before anyone starts moving cartons around to fix the support.

19 points
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MeiCarter1038
Replying to DavidArcher0432

David, that is the joint review Elliot asked for. It may need sections as well as top views, especially if cartons already placed obstruct the tool. Who is coordinating the drawing revision?

-7 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to JaneAli0249

I'm collecting the two sets of comments. Jane, no support arrows on the current pattern. I'll get those added alongside the tool views. We haven't established what bridging the carton can tolerate.

19 points
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TheoBrown0932
Replying to DavidArcher0432

David is correct that my proposed view was incomplete for tooling. Add the sequence too. A tool position clear on the empty pallet can be obstructed later in the layer.

14 points
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JaneAli0249
Replying to ElliotCarter1031

Also worth asking which cartons are used for the packaging assessment, because empty display cartons won't tell you much about the loaded stack, and dispatch will be the people dealing with any damage.

3 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to JaneAli0249

The packaging reviewer wants representative filled cartons. Combined views have exposed a second snag: moving one row onto support leaves less room to withdraw the fingers. So the first suggested correction isn't ready either.

18 points
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DavidArcher0432
Replying to ElliotCarter1031

That's the useful drawing. Is fewer cartons on the awkward layer allowed, or has someone fixed the quantity before checking the pack?

15 points
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MeiCarter1038
Replying to DavidArcher0432

Fewer may help access, but it changes support for the next layer. Keep it as a complete stack option, not a local patch to one crowded row.

20 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to MeiCarter1038

Quantity can change. I've asked for a reduced-count option through the complete stack, Mei. Packaging hasn't returned its assessment yet, so I'm comparing proposals rather than choosing one.

11 points
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JaneAli0249
Replying to ElliotCarter1031

Who has to move the leftover cartons if the count changes? Small dispatch areas can absorb a surprisingly awkward extra handling job.

7 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to JaneAli0249

Dispatch will join the next review for exactly that reason. We've got a shared drawing now and two options worth discussing. Still no accepted pattern; I don't have the packaging answer needed to choose.

2 points

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