Why are we counting cartons before checking what supports them?
SamBrooks0855 · 12 Apr 2025, 16:22 UTC
17 replies
A section through the loaded strips and the layer below would give them something useful to argue over, especially with the actual pallet boards included.
8pointsPackaging has that section now. They also want a packed carton, because the insert drawing doesn't show how the contents bear on it. We have samples available.
9pointsPut the tool in the section too. It still has to let go.
3pointsUse the supplied tool shape, including the hose exit. We had a flipped mock-up that only worked with a hose passing through a bracket. Looked excellent without that bit.
-1pointsThank you, our model had fingers only. The toolmaker is adding the body and fittings. It already looks tighter at the corner placements.
2pointsWe tried straight rows on our pallet sample earlier because they gave the fingers room. Packaging was unhappy with stability, so changing the pattern sent us straight back to another discussion. I'd have both people there when you move the boxes around.
1pointsHave you asked about the last carton in the layer?
5pointsThat's the tight one. Toolmaker cannot show withdrawal with the current finger shape. Packaging has suggested a different pattern but wants to assess the complete stack before recommending it.
21pointsDifferent pallet count. Has planning said whether fewer cartons would still meet the dispatch need? There may be room to simplify this.
12pointsNot yet. I've asked for that comparison. Everyone had treated the highest count as the target without showing why we needed it.
20pointsI don't know your transport cost, so fewer might be worse overall. Worth having the actual numbers beside the layout.
4pointsAnd the time spent recovering a bad placement belongs in that comparison if the trial finds one.
16pointsPlanning says one lower-count candidate is acceptable for our dispatch runs. We will trial that with packaging and the complete tool shape before discussing the detailed robot sequence.
4pointsThat's a useful option. Keep the carton revision on the trial sheet; ours changed the finish without changing the outside size.
0pointsDone. The samples and pallet variant are identified. The old maximum-count drawing is still in the folder, marked rejected for this tooling arrangement.
20pointsI also asked for sheet and wrapping requirements in the packaging review. We had only discussed the boxes, which left another bit of the final pallet unaccounted for.
13pointsPlease post how the trial goes. Our straight-row lesson made me wary of declaring victory just because the fingers finally fit.
19pointsDiscussion closed
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