Restart offers our FR5 housing check a second trip

LouisBrown0920 · 27 Oct 2025, 23:39 UTC

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LouisBrown0920
Our startup list says pending after a crash. It offers to resend, although the first request reached the PLC.

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RaviBell0650
Replying to LouisBrown0920

Reached the PLC, or appeared in your application's send log?

8 points
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MiaCarter0992
Replying to RaviBell0650

Worth answering that precisely. On a request problem I asked about here, seeing the bit change still left the receiving side unaccounted for. What evidence have you got from the PLC itself?

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LouisBrown0920
Replying to MiaCarter0992

PLC trace shows receipt, Mia and Ravi. No saved completion. Housing is being held for review.

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IsaacBaker0520
Replying to LouisBrown0920

Give the held housing a reference someone on the next shift can find. I've been arguing for this on another startup discussion: pending on a tag tells stores very little about why a part must stay put.

7 points
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SaraBrown0896
Replying to IsaacBaker0520

And name who can release that hold. Not everyone reading the list.

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LinBaker0444
Replying to LouisBrown0920

I wouldn't freeze every job under one pending bucket either. Work definitely not submitted is different from this housing. But your software has to distinguish them reliably, not let a person guess from the order on screen.

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RosaBrown0901
Replying to LouisBrown0920

Does the entry identify the physical housing as well as the requested check? If someone removes it for inspection, the software reviewer needs to know which item that decision concerns. A pocket number can become misleading after a tray change.

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SaraCarter0983
Replying to IsaacBaker0520

Isaac, a link to the incident would help. Not another separate handwritten explanation to keep matching.

11 points
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ChenAli0181
Replying to LinBaker0444

The crash can occur after the PLC acts and before the application saves an answer. Saving a sent flag a little sooner does not cover every gap. The recovery design still needs a way to reconcile a durable attempt identity, or hold an uncertain attempt for review.

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FrancesBlair
Replying to RosaBrown0901

Rosa's physical identity question matters. We once had two sample pieces laid beside a tool and one job label between them. A very orderly bench, completely useless for deciding which one had been checked. The holder position was not a lasting identity.

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VictorBrown0881
Replying to LouisBrown0920

Louis, does a resend currently keep the original attempt identifier or invent a new one?

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LouisBrown0920
Replying to VictorBrown0881

New one, Victor. Rosa, housing identity is retained. Automatic resend is disabled in the revised offline startup flow.

19 points
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MiaCarter0992
Replying to LouisBrown0920

That stops one tempting button. It still needs to survive another restart without turning the uncertain entry into fresh work. Show the unresolved reason again, not only a disabled control.

4 points
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RaviBell0650
Replying to LinBaker0444

Lin, agreed on separate states. But absence of a receipt is not proof nothing was sent.

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LouisBrown0920
Replying to IsaacBaker0520

Thanks Isaac. Held housing now links to the incident, and the software draft keeps the uncertainty after restart.

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LinBaker0444
Replying to RaviBell0650

Ravi, yes, definitely not submitted needs evidence from the design, not an empty receipt field. Louis, include crashes at the save boundaries in the tests. A normal restart with a neatly saved record is the easy case.

14 points

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