What belongs beside housing weight in these FR10 tooling offers?

HarishBennett0750 · 1 Jul 2026, 16:21 UTC

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HarishBennett0750
Two proposals for moving our steel gearbox housing into an assembly fixture, both justified by the housing's mass. Neither explanation seems to include the extended fingers, adapter or hose fittings. What should I ask for so I can compare the actual tools on the FR10 without pretending I'm the load-assessment specialist?

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RaviCarter0998
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Ask for the complete loaded assembly and its assessed limits. Part mass is only one input.

6 points
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SofiaAdams0108
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Include the actual grip position on the housing. Extended fingers change where the load acts, and their allowable loading matters as well as the robot's limits.

10 points
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StephanieCasey
Replying to RaviCarter0998

And don't let the answer be a single bigger weight number. The location of that mass and the intended movement matter; I'd want the person responsible for integration to connect the tool proposal to the job being quoted.

5 points
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LeahBennett0756
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Are both suppliers proposing the same held orientation and destination access, or are their suitability statements based on different ways of presenting the housing?

22 points
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HarishBennett0750
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Leah, different orientations. One holds the housing farther out to reach around the fixture wall. I hadn't noticed that the shorter-looking offer assumes the wall isn't there in its release view. Sofia, neither has given me a finger-load assessment.

22 points
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TheoAdams0149
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Can the integrator issue one fixture geometry and required presentation description to both? The tool designs may still differ, but the comparison needs a common task before the numbers mean anything.

2 points
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FarahAbbott0069
Replying to HarishBennett0750

That geometry check is worth doing before paying for either tool. One omitted wall is already material.

6 points
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SofiaAdams0108
Replying to FarahAbbott0069

Different tools aren't a problem by themselves. A closer grip may suit the load better but still need another access method. I would not rank them from finger length alone.

15 points
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TobyChan1101
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Who supports the complete assembly after purchase? I would ask that while the drawings are being corrected. A supplier supporting the gripper body does not necessarily support somebody else's extended fingers and adapter.

6 points
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HarishBennett0750
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Theo, the integrator has now issued the actual fixture model and required housing position to both. Toby, one offers complete-tool support; the other only its standard gripper. That difference wasn't in my comparison sheet either.

13 points
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LucaChan1048
Replying to HarishBennett0750

I've found the support scope useful in teaching-cell purchases. Does it identify replacement finger references too?

24 points
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NoraCarter1018
Replying to TobyChan1101

Toby, yes, though I wouldn't reject separate support automatically. It needs a named owner for diagnosing the assembled tool, not three people each telling Harish their own bit looks fine.

12 points
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AlistairBlair
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Is either proposal now assessed against the required movement, or have the updated drawings only arrived?

23 points
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StephanieCasey
Replying to NoraCarter1018

Nora's distinction is fair. Split supply can be workable, but responsibility for the interface has to be bought or assigned somewhere, rather than treated as free because it has no line price.

13 points
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HarishBennett0750
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Alistair, the integration review has returned. The long-offset proposal exceeds the applicable wrist load envelope for the submitted assembly and movement. The shorter tool can meet the assessed limits, but its supplier now proposes a different release approach for the real wall. Access review is unfinished. Luca, replacement references are supplied for both.

23 points
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LeahBennett0756
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Keep the long-offset finding tied to that submitted configuration; a redesigned assembly would need another assessment, while the shorter tool still needs its proposed release route demonstrated in the layout

8 points
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TobyChan1101
Replying to HarishBennett0750

Has the complete-tool support question been assigned for the shorter proposal? It would be a shame to improve the load comparison and buy the same unresolved handover problem.

11 points
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HarishBennett0750
Replying to TobyChan1101

Toby, the integrator has offered that role with a separate cost, including the custom fingers. It's in the comparison now. I'm keeping the shorter proposal under review and declining the long-offset configuration as submitted; no order until the route and total scope are settled.

18 points
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SofiaAdams0108
Replying to HarishBennett0750

That is a defensible distinction. The shorter tool has passed a defined load review, not proved the whole housing-transfer job merely because its numbers fit.

13 points
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HarishBennett0750
Replying to SofiaAdams0108

Agreed. Thanks Sofia for keeping the finger loading separate from the robot limit. I now have two actual assessment questions and named owners, instead of two quotations that both said the housing was light enough.

8 points

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