How do I budget an FR10 pilot without hiding my fixture hours?

LucyBarnes0567 · 5 Aug 2025, 07:44 UTC

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LU
LucyBarnes0567
I priced the FR10 and gripper. My colleague asked who pays for fixtures and setup. Fair question. What belongs in a bounded pilot?

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HassanBrown0878
Replying to LucyBarnes0567

Which mounting block and tray arrangement would you test first?

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LU
LucyBarnes0567
Replying to HassanBrown0878

One block type, current delivery tray, one receiving fixture. No product changeover in the first trial.

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HA
HassanBrown0878
Replying to LucyBarnes0567

Who makes that fixture, and how much of their time have you allowed?

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LU
LucyBarnes0567
Replying to HassanBrown0878

Me. Nothing allowed yet; I had called it a quick fixture and stopped there.

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MiaChan1079
Replying to LucyBarnes0567

Put your hours in, including revisions after the first trial. Also time the manual job from the same incoming tray. A pilot can answer something useful even if it says the fixture work costs more than the handling saves.

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LU
LucyBarnes0567
Replying to MiaChan1079

Added design, manufacture, setup and trial support. The estimate is less cheerful but more believable.

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JasperAli0203
Replying to LucyBarnes0567

Include someone else operating the trial after the agreed handover. If only you can keep the parts moving, you have not tested the staffing assumption. That person needs time allocated, not a request to watch between other jobs.

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HassanBrown0878
Replying to LucyBarnes0567

What would make you stop instead of designing another fixture version?

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LU
LucyBarnes0567
Replying to HassanBrown0878

We are setting a fixture-hours cap and comparing complete tray time with manual handling, including interventions.

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LU
LucyBarnes0567
Replying to LucyBarnes0567

Colleague and I agreed that scope. Still waiting for tooling costs before deciding whether to run it.

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MiaChan1079
Replying to LucyBarnes0567

Keep that decision separate from buying the arm. Agreeing a sensible experiment does not yet show that its cost is worth paying.

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