How are we choosing a scratch threshold from guesses about these covers?

ReeceAllen0297 · 10 Jun 2026, 16:08 UTC

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ReeceAllen0297
Our UR5e inspection plan has bright streaks labelled scratches. The streaks shift when presentation changes. I want to sort the reference set before commissioning, or at least stop calling the existing labels confirmed. I don't know which marks are physical yet.

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FelixChan1067
Replying to ReeceAllen0297

Can you connect the pictures to retained covers? That would let quality examine the surfaces before anyone teaches operators to use those pictures as examples of rejection.

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ReeceAllen0297
Replying to FelixChan1067

Three covers retained and numbered. The pictures use those numbers. Labelled from the pictures, not a physical inspection.

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RebeccaBarnes0604
Replying to ReeceAllen0297

Who has authority to decide acceptable appearance here? I wouldn't replace the camera team's guesses with whichever person happens to walk past the bench.

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ReeceAllen0297
Replying to RebeccaBarnes0604

Quality lead. I have asked her to review the three against our appearance requirement. No extra samples selected yet.

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VictorArcher0359
Replying to ReeceAllen0297

Are the images original captures with exposure and lighting recorded? Before spending on new optics, I would want to know what changed between these apparently contradictory examples.

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ReeceAllen0297
Replying to VictorArcher0359

Original files, but lighting positions weren't recorded. Exposure varies too. We changed things until the surface looked clear, which makes the folder rather poor evidence of consistency.

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FelixChan1067
Replying to ReeceAllen0297

A small repeat session with recorded conditions would help once the covers have agreed judgements. Keep the whole surface visible in the reference images, including where any confirmed damage lies.

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NadiaAbbott0030
Replying to FelixChan1067

Could you keep a little set for the operator handover as well? I mean the actual covers if storage permits, because somebody will eventually ask whether a new mark resembles the example.

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ReeceAllen0297
Replying to NadiaAbbott0030

Yes, quality is keeping them. She accepted two and rejected one for a nick near the edge. None was rejected for the broad bright streak we labelled.

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RebeccaBarnes0604
Replying to ReeceAllen0297

Do the old scratch labels still appear in any training folder? Moving your working copy won't remove those.

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ReeceAllen0297
Replying to RebeccaBarnes0604

There was a shared slide deck too. I've marked its examples unverified and asked the owner to replace them. The tuning folder now uses quality's recorded decisions.

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VictorArcher0359
Replying to ReeceAllen0297

Can the proposed imaging conditions show the nick without falsely rejecting the two accepted covers? That is a more useful comparison than making one selected photograph look clean.

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ReeceAllen0297
Replying to VictorArcher0359

Not consistently yet. One accepted cover gets strong edge glare, while the nick can disappear in another view. We are comparing positions with all three present.

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FelixChan1067
Replying to ReeceAllen0297

Include reseating in that comparison, Reece. Otherwise you may choose a condition that only works while the person arranging the first cover leaves it untouched.

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NadiaAbbott0030
Replying to ReeceAllen0297

Did the slide owner replace the old examples? Interested because ours survived a correction in a handout somebody printed before the meeting.

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ReeceAllen0297
Replying to NadiaAbbott0030

Deck replaced. Printed handout withdrawn too; thanks Nadia, I hadn't asked about copies on the bench. New handover examples still waiting for the repeat imaging result.

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ReeceAllen0297
Replying to FelixChan1067

Latest comparison suggests inconsistent seating contributes to the glare change. Fixture person is reviewing the holder. We have agreed physical references, but no threshold acceptance yet.

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RebeccaBarnes0604
Replying to ReeceAllen0297

What did you observe at the holder that points to seating? I'd like to know before treating that as the explanation for every image difference.

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