Two UR5e attempts share one label and three different clocks

AmandaBriggs · 8 Apr 2026, 06:01 UTC

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AmandaBriggs
I thought I had a simple timeout to explain. Then I put the Python log beside the PLC trace and controller events. Their times disagree, and the application reused the same job label after restarting. There is one acknowledgement near the timeout in the sorted view. It might belong to the earlier attempt. I don't want to build a confident story from the sort order just because it looks tidy. Has anyone found a useful first comparison when the original events are still available but the labels are this poor?

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LucaBarnes0526
Replying to AmandaBriggs

Preserve the original order within each source and split the application sessions first, because one reused label should not make two attempts look like one long attempt.

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AmandaBriggs
Replying to LucaBarnes0526

The restart marker separates them clearly in the raw application file. Our merged report removed that marker. I've put the two sessions into separate columns beside the untouched PLC and controller files.

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JuliaBrooks0848
Replying to AmandaBriggs

Good start. Does the raw acknowledgement carry anything besides that short job label? Don't let the report decide which fields are worth seeing.

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LeahArcher0408
Replying to AmandaBriggs

Record the clock settings and any known uncertainty before aligning those columns; changing today's clocks will not retrospectively establish the order of the old events.

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AmandaBriggs
Replying to JuliaBrooks0848

Julia, the raw acknowledgement contains a sender session value that the report drops. Leah, the controller export uses a different time basis; the maintainer is documenting that before we compare times.

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TheoAdams0149
Replying to AmandaBriggs

Can that sender session be linked to either application attempt independently of the timestamps? I would use it only if its meaning and lifetime are known, not because it happens to look like the earlier session value.

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JuliaBrooks0848
Replying to TheoAdams0149

Theo's right about the meaning. We fixed a display and export together on another job because the pretty view had hidden the identifier; fixing just Amanda's spreadsheet would leave the next person with the same trap.

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AmandaBriggs
Replying to TheoAdams0149

The application author confirms the field is the sender's session identity, and the saved start exchange links it to the first attempt. The acknowledgement belongs there. The second attempt has no matching acknowledgement in these records.

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LucaBarnes0526
Replying to AmandaBriggs

Has the author explained why that first acknowledgement was still being delivered, Amanda, now that its ownership is clearer?

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AmandaBriggs
Replying to LucaBarnes0526

A queued delivery survived the first application's disconnect. The developer reproduced that offline and fixed the report to retain session and attempt identity. The new test delivers the older acknowledgement while the newer attempt waits; it stays with the first attempt.

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TheoAdams0149
Replying to AmandaBriggs

Does the newer attempt's own acknowledgement still appear correctly after that delayed one? The test needs to show you have not simply ignored everything arriving after a reconnect.

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LeahArcher0408
Replying to AmandaBriggs

And include the source clock information in the handover, Amanda, since the identity repair does not make three time displays interchangeable.

18 points

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