Why buy softer pads before we agree which sleeve marks fail?

JoArcher0418 · 21 Mar 2026, 11:45 UTC

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JoArcher0418
Our FR5 tooling samples mark the anodised sleeve. Supplier proposes softer pads; quality hasn't judged the marks yet.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to JoArcher0418

Start with identified sleeves before and after handling, judged using quality's agreed viewing method. You need to know which marks matter before comparing contacts, though holding and release must remain in the trial.

18points
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JoArcher0418
Replying to AaronBaker0436

We have the sleeves. Two people disagree about the same bright band.

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HazelBrown0919
Replying to JoArcher0418

Get those two people looking at the same sleeve the same way. One lamp right against the surface and one glance from the aisle can produce a very long argument about very little shared evidence.

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DavidBrown0954
Replying to JoArcher0418

Were the sleeves checked before handling, or are all the visible marks being blamed on the fingers?

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JoArcher0418
Replying to DavidBrown0954

Before photos exist, but one sleeve number is missing. I'm leaving that pair out of the comparison.

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BrunoBrooks0800
Replying to JoArcher0418

Keep the unidentified sleeve aside rather than binning it. Someone may recover its identity, but it shouldn't quietly become a known-good starting sample because the next pad trial needs one.

16points
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AaronBaker0436
Replying to DavidBrown0954

David's question also helps distinguish incoming finish variation from new contact marks. Keep both in the sample selection once quality has identified them.

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HazelBrown0919
Replying to AaronBaker0436

I wouldn't order a pile of soft pads yet. We tried a more compliant contact on a cosmetic part and liked the first marks less badly, then found it held on during release. It wasn't a useless trial; it told us the easy-looking change moved the problem. Your supplier should show the sleeve leaving the contacts and sitting properly in the receiving tray, not just a nice surface photograph.

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JoArcher0418
Replying to HazelBrown0919

Quality accepts the bright band but rejects two new scuffs at the contact edge. Their method is agreed now.

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DavidBrown0954
Replying to JoArcher0418

Does the supplier have those actual scuffed sleeves to compare with the contact edge?

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JoArcher0418
Replying to DavidBrown0954

Yes. They found a sharp edge on one sample insert, unlike its drawing.

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BrunoBrooks0800
Replying to JoArcher0418

Then identify that insert separately. Stores needs to know whether a revised drawing is coming or an incorrectly made part is being replaced to the existing one.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to JoArcher0418

And repeat the original comparison with the corrected insert before combining it with a different pad material. Otherwise you won't know which change helped.

13points
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HazelBrown0919
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Agreed on changing one thing here. My soft-contact story isn't a reason to keep a wrongly made edge.

21points
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JoArcher0418
Replying to BrunoBrooks0800

Replacement is to the existing drawing. Supplier has kept the proposed softer pads out of this repeat.

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DavidBrown0954
Replying to JoArcher0418

Has the repeat included release into your actual tray?

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JoArcher0418
Replying to DavidBrown0954

Yes. No new edge scuffs on the identified sleeves, but one hangs briefly before releasing.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to JoArcher0418

Useful surface result, and a real release problem to investigate. Give the supplier the affected sleeve identity and the complete sequence; don't improve the surface comparison by omitting that attempt.

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JoArcher0418
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Kept it in. Softer-pad purchase is on hold; supplier is investigating the delayed release with that sleeve.

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BrunoBrooks0800
Replying to JoArcher0418

I've seen the successful surface photograph become the only picture retained. Keep the release clip attached to the same trial identity, so purchasing doesn't receive half the result.

13points

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