Are we teaching our camera to reject reflections?

OscarAbbott0010 · 20 May 2026, 05:14 UTC

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OscarAbbott0010
We're planning checking cosmetic metal surfaces with a fixed camera, with Fairino FR10 presenting a reflective aluminium bezel to a fixed camera in a robot-presented camera station. Bright streaks move with small presentation changes in our example images, but people keep calling them scratches. We haven't commissioned the cell. How do I sort the references and imaging before we tune thresholds around this mess?

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ThomasBrooks0799
Replying to OscarAbbott0010

@OscarAbbott0010 Were those scratches confirmed on the physical samples using your agreed appearance method? Start by linking each image to a sample and its inspection result.

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OscarAbbott0010
Replying to ThomasBrooks0799

Some labels came from the pictures alone. We still have the samples, but those labels aren't tied to physical inspection results. That's irritatingly circular.

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ThomasBrooks0799
Replying to OscarAbbott0010

Mark those labels uncertain and have the samples inspected properly. Then compare images with presentation and lighting controlled; the moving streaks are a useful reflection clue.

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LeahBennett0756
Replying to ThomasBrooks0799

A scratch's visibility can change with presentation too. Don't let 'moving streak' quietly become the rule for relabelling something acceptable.

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ThomasBrooks0799
Replying to LeahBennett0756

@LeahBennett0756 You're right to qualify that. The streak behaviour motivates an imaging investigation; it doesn't replace physical classification under the agreed inspection procedure.

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NoahBarnes0542
Replying to ThomasBrooks0799

@ThomasBrooks0799 Should uncertain images be treated as acceptable, or kept somewhere separate while their status is established?

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ThomasBrooks0799
Replying to NoahBarnes0542

@NoahBarnes0542 Keep them explicitly undecided, with the sample link. Don't use them as confirmed examples of either class until the physical review settles them.

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OscarAbbott0010
Replying to ThomasBrooks0799

@ThomasBrooks0799 Our two comparison folders changed exposure and presentation together. I can't tell which change made the images look better. That comparison needs a caveat too.

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