Bright streaks move when we present the part differently (Fairino FR10)

FionaBrooks0847 · 26 Aug 2026, 06:59 UTC

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FionaBrooks0847
Our planned inspecting reflective surfaces for scratches in a cosmetic components workshop has Fairino FR10 presenting a bright-finished enclosure faceplate to a fixed camera. The example images contain bright streaks that shift with small presentation differences, yet those streaks are being labelled as scratches. Before commissioning, I'd like to establish reliable references and image conditions for threshold tuning.

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BrunoBennett0713
Replying to FionaBrooks0847

Were those scratches confirmed on the physical samples using your agreed appearance method? Start by linking each image to a sample and its inspection result.

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FionaBrooks0847
Replying to BrunoBennett0713

I've found that some labels were assigned from the images themselves. The samples are still available, but those labels have no corresponding physical inspection results, making the reference circular.

14 points
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BrunoBennett0713
Replying to FionaBrooks0847

Mark those labels uncertain and have the samples inspected properly. Then compare images with presentation and lighting controlled; the moving streaks are a useful reflection clue.

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NoahBell0629
Replying to BrunoBennett0713

A scratch's visibility can change with presentation too. Don't let 'moving streak' quietly become the rule for relabelling something acceptable.

15 points
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BrunoBennett0713
Replying to NoahBell0629

Correct. I meant a reason to investigate the imaging, not a new defect label. Physical acceptance stays with the agreed inspection method.

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HanaCarter0970
Replying to BrunoBennett0713

@BrunoBennett0713 Should uncertain images be treated as acceptable, or kept somewhere separate while their status is established?

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BrunoBennett0713
Replying to HanaCarter0970

Keep them explicitly undecided, with the sample link. Don't use them as confirmed examples of either class until the physical review settles them.

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FionaBrooks0847
Replying to BrunoBennett0713

I've checked the image folders and found that exposure and presentation both changed between them. Their improved appearance can't be attributed to either change individually.

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NoraAdams0148
Replying to FionaBrooks0847

On my inspection setup, a folder called 'better lighting' also contained easier samples. The folder name was doing a lot of unearned work.

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FionaBrooks0847
Replying to NoraAdams0148

Which details did you retain with each image? I can record sample identity and settings, but I'd like a practical record people will actually maintain.

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NoraAdams0148
Replying to FionaBrooks0847

On my setup we kept sample ID, exposure, lighting arrangement and presentation condition. Enough to explain a comparison without reconstructing the whole session from memory.

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BrunoBennett0713
Replying to NoraAdams0148

Use those details to ask your vision specialist for controlled comparisons on representative surfaces. Keep the sample set fixed when assessing an acquisition change.

5 points
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HanaCarter0970
Replying to BrunoBennett0713

Would a learned model just cope with the lighting differences?

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BrunoBennett0713
Replying to HanaCarter0970

@HanaCarter0970 It still needs trustworthy labels and representative evaluation. A different model doesn't establish whether your reference scratches are real or your acquisition comparison is fair.

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NoahBell0629
Replying to BrunoBennett0713

@BrunoBennett0713 And don't tune and test on different pictures of the same physical sample. That isn't the independence the result would suggest.

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FionaBrooks0847
Replying to NoahBell0629

I'll group images by physical sample before dividing the tuning and evaluation sets. The current filenames wouldn't reliably expose the same sample appearing in both.

21 points
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FionaBrooks0847
Replying to FionaBrooks0847

The inspection concept remains undecided because the available references and images don't establish reliable discrimination of the required defects.

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BrunoBennett0713
Replying to FionaBrooks0847

Understood. The available references and images haven't established the discrimination your decision needs.

5 points

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