Different exposed lengths before we even involve Universal Robots UR5e

PriyaChan1090 · 9 Jul 2026, 23:01 UTC

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PriyaChan1090
Our planned use of Universal Robots UR5e for presenting round stock to a chuck stop in a low-volume CNC workshop has raised a measurement question: hand-loaded samples of a brass sleeve blank have different exposed lengths, but our sheet records no other dimensions. Automatic loading hasn't been authorised. I'd like a way to distinguish variation in the blanks from inconsistent seating.

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BethBennett0759
Replying to PriyaChan1090

@PriyaChan1090 Which face should meet the stop? Check that against the blank drawing, then pair each exposed-length reading with that sample's overall length.

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PriyaChan1090
Replying to BethBennett0759

It's the incoming end face on the sketch, and the blank drawing allows length variation. We didn't give samples individual IDs on the sheet. That's frustrating.

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BethBennett0759
Replying to PriyaChan1090

@PriyaChan1090 Use labelled bench samples and measure overall length plus the intended seating reference. Comparing exposed lengths can then help identify seating differences to investigate.

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MinaBennett0772
Replying to BethBennett0759

@BethBennett0759 That still sounds a bit too generous to exposed length. A short blank sitting proud could match a longer blank seated correctly.

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BethBennett0759
Replying to MinaBennett0772

@MinaBennett0772 You're right to qualify it. I meant comparing the paired dimensions, not passing parts on exposed length alone. The reference must distinguish stock allowance from a gap.

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RosaBaker0466
Replying to BethBennett0759

Must the surface touching the stop also be the finished-part datum?

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BethBennett0759
Replying to RosaBaker0466

@RosaBaker0466 They don't have to be the same surface, but their relationship needs defining. Ask the drawing owner how the incoming reference supports the machining datum.

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PriyaChan1090
Replying to BethBennett0759

@BethBennett0759 The downstream datum is a shoulder rather than the incoming end. Their relationship is missing from our planning sketch, which makes the disagreement more understandable.

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FelixBarnes0545
Replying to PriyaChan1090

We had a different sleeve project with two perfectly respectable spreadsheets that couldn't be matched. Putting IDs on the physical samples made the measurements useful.

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PriyaChan1090
Replying to FelixBarnes0545

Did you link end-face pictures to the sample labels? A few edges look rough here, though photos shouldn't become a substitute for dimensions.

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FelixBarnes0545
Replying to PriyaChan1090

I'd attach them to the measurements. That lets another person locate the same edge or contact mark without assuming it's responsible for the variation.

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BethBennett0759
Replying to PriyaChan1090

@PriyaChan1090 Show where the stop really contacts that face. Naming the surface alone can hide a design that bears only against an edge.

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PriyaChan1090
Replying to BethBennett0759

Inspection pictures of the removed workholding show contact over only part of the face. They're not tied to sample IDs, so they can't explain individual readings.

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MinaBennett0772
Replying to PriyaChan1090

Useful clue, but uneven witness marks don't tell you whether chips, geometry or an old contact condition produced them.

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PriyaChan1090
Replying to MinaBennett0772

The measurement approach is clearer, but I still can't account for the seating variation. I'll keep the tooling decision open while the dimensional and reference questions are checked.

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BethBennett0759
Replying to PriyaChan1090

You've improved the investigation without claiming the cause is settled. Keeping the tooling decision open follows from that.

21 points

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