How should we compare contacts that leave witness marks? (Fairino FR10)

AmaraBrooks0861 · 30 Apr 2026, 18:27 UTC

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AmaraBrooks0861
Our gripper selection for Fairino FR10 handling an anodised aluminium sleeve during moving cosmetic components between nests in a precision finishing workshop needs a clearer comparison. Bench samples show marks on the visible cylindrical finish, and the supplier has proposed softer pads. Since we haven't agreed an appearance method, I'd like to establish one alongside an assessment of holding and release.

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RachelBrooks0870
Replying to AmaraBrooks0861

@AmaraBrooks0861 Does the customer have an appearance inspection method? Get that and the cosmetic zones on the drawing beside the samples before comparing pad materials.

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AmaraBrooks0861
Replying to RachelBrooks0870

@RachelBrooks0870 The exterior cylinder is labelled visible on the drawing. We've only got phone photos in workshop lighting, with no link to the customer's viewing procedure.

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RachelBrooks0870
Replying to AmaraBrooks0861

Get the viewing procedure, then compare handled and untouched samples using it. Include a softer pad as one candidate for reducing the marks.

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LucaAllen0265
Replying to RachelBrooks0870

@RachelBrooks0870 Softer pads can hold grit and drag on release. Your suggestion could sound like material softness is the main thing to optimise.

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RachelBrooks0870
Replying to LucaAllen0265

@LucaAllen0265 You're right about the emphasis. The comparison needs contact geometry, representative contamination and release behaviour too. A softer pad doesn't get a presumed advantage.

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AmaraBrooks0861
Replying to RachelBrooks0870

@RachelBrooks0870 Would a marked sample and an untouched one from the same batch be enough to avoid blaming the gripper for incoming scratches?

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ThomasChan1060
Replying to AmaraBrooks0861

@AmaraBrooks0861 That helps, and photograph each sample before contact too. Separate pieces from one batch can still arrive with different marks.

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JackChan1124
Replying to ThomasChan1060

If lighting changes whether you can see a mark, which result counts?

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RachelBrooks0870
Replying to JackChan1124

Use the customer's agreed procedure for acceptance. Other lighting can reveal clues about contact, without becoming a different unofficial pass-or-fail test.

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AmaraBrooks0861
Replying to RachelBrooks0870

I found the customer's lighting and viewing procedure in the quality pack. Our phone photos don't match it, so that procedure will govern the comparison.

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ThomasChan1060
Replying to AmaraBrooks0861

@AmaraBrooks0861 On a separate finished-sleeve job, an edge imprint mattered more than the broad contact haze. The accepted viewing method stopped us arguing over dramatic photos.

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AmaraBrooks0861
Replying to ThomasChan1060

There's a repeated line at the finger edge on our samples too. It hasn't been checked using the required lighting, so I'm treating it as something to investigate.

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RachelBrooks0870
Replying to AmaraBrooks0861

Show the repeated line against the contact edge in the drawing. Have the supplier explain the support shape and how contact changes during release.

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LucaAllen0265
Replying to RachelBrooks0870

Broader contact isn't automatically better either. It still needs to locate and retain the part, and it might cover an area the customer inspects.

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RachelBrooks0870
Replying to LucaAllen0265

@LucaAllen0265 Agreed. The tooling specialist needs to check revised geometry for cosmetic contact, retention and release together. Good-looking samples don't establish handling suitability.

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JackChan1124
Replying to RachelBrooks0870

@RachelBrooks0870 Could a non-visible surface take the support instead?

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AmaraBrooks0861
Replying to JackChan1124

One end area isn't marked cosmetic, although the drawing doesn't authorise supporting there. I'll check with the designer before treating it as available contact space.

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AmaraBrooks0861
Replying to AmaraBrooks0861

The comparison method is clear now: customer appearance criteria plus handling assessment. My selection-planning question is answered; the gripper choice will depend on those results.

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RachelBrooks0870
Replying to AmaraBrooks0861

That gives the selection review a clear basis while leaving the actual contact choice dependent on the comparison.

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