How do I get the actual fingers into this FR5 access review?
AdaArcher0390 · 10 Jun 2025, 15:13 UTC
20 replies
Stop the comparison until they identify the intended fingers.
6pointsToolmaker says long. Robot supplier says the short model was just for the reach study. That study is attached to the purchase recommendation
18pointsThen take it out of the recommendation. Or mark it clearly as an incomplete study, rather than delete the trail. Someone will otherwise remember the green tick and forget the missing fingers.
18pointsMarked incomplete. Asked for the long fingers holding the actual blank, with the door open. No green tick on that page now
13pointsInclude the adapter too. A correct finger model on the wrong adapter can still place the entire tool in the wrong position.
11pointsDoes the toolmaker explain why the fingers need to be longer?
15pointsThey need to reach past the fixture lip while the body stays outside it. Short ones were from a different sample tray, not this mill fixture
12pointsSo the short tool was never an option here.
2pointsCould changing the fixture lip make the shorter tool practical? I'm not saying machine it away. Just wondering whether the fixture designer has an alternative before you settle on the long tool.
12pointsMaybe, but it's the machining fixture and not ours to alter casually. The machine team is looking at whether a different loading face is possible
18pointsAsk them to include manual loading and inspection access in that option. It would be awkward to solve the robot approach by hiding the clamp the setter needs.
19pointsCan the existing fixture still be used while they compare that?
16pointsYes, existing manual route stays as it is. We're comparing drawings, no fixture modifications made
3pointsGood, that buys a proper comparison. I would put the fixture-change cost beside the revised tool cost, because either team can make its own item look cheaper by borrowing work from the other.
11pointsAnd charge the design time somewhere. It is happening.
17pointsDo both options still use the same adapter, Ada? I asked earlier because that drawing can get left out when everyone focuses on finger length.
12pointsSame approved adapter revision B in both. Toolmaker has supplied the full assemblies now. Thanks, Grace, the original short-finger model had a different adapter as well
17pointsThat would have been a confusing comparison.
18pointsMachine team has kept the current fixture for the first proposal. The long-tool access review is booked, but we don't have its result or an arm decision yet
17pointsWho is checking the loaded tool assessment alongside that access review? Longer fingers affect more than fit.
10pointsDiscussion closed
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