Every bag variant adds another fixture to our shared bench

IsaacAbbott0085 · 9 Jun 2026, 11:10 UTC

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IsaacAbbott0085
The FR10 moves our filled sample bags into trays. That part works. Starting quantity was 234, but each new bag shape needs more presentation work. I have spent a lot of effort on this and am reluctant to stop. The shared bench is gradually becoming my fixture store.

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AlexAbbott0037
Replying to IsaacAbbott0085

Count the preparation time before funding another variant. You could have a working transfer and still have made packing more expensive.

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IsaacAbbott0085
Replying to AlexAbbott0037

I timed transfer only. Operators straighten the bags and fill the guides before I start that timer. They have been fairly patient about this omission.

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NathanAllen0286
Replying to IsaacAbbott0085

Would one stable bag type earn its space though? You might be throwing away a useful narrow job because the proposal keeps collecting every product people mention.

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IsaacAbbott0085
Replying to NathanAllen0286

There is one repeat bag size. It also runs in small mixed orders. Keeping its guides installed would block the rest of the packing work.

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DineshBrooks0821
Replying to IsaacAbbott0085

I would include removing and storing those guides in the comparison. Actually, include retrieving the right set as well. Maintenance gets called when several nearly identical pieces have been put in one drawer.

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JaneAllen0336
Replying to IsaacAbbott0085

Ask the operators what they would do with the bench if this stopped. That gives the space a practical value instead of treating it as free floor area.

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IsaacAbbott0085
Replying to JaneAllen0336

They want the bench back for mixed orders. I already had that answer, I just kept thinking another guide would make the complaint go away.

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AlexAbbott0037
Replying to IsaacAbbott0085

Then show them the full comparison. They are allowed to prefer the old job without becoming the obstacle to your project.

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NathanAllen0286
Replying to AlexAbbott0037

Alex, I agree they should be heard, but there is still a question about that repeat size. Could it run elsewhere, if there is spare space?

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AlexAbbott0037
Replying to NathanAllen0286

If there is a real spare station, price it. I wouldn't count imagined space as the rescue plan.

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IsaacAbbott0085
Replying to AlexAbbott0037

Nathan, we have no other suitable bench allocated. Alex, I am including manual packing beside the full preparation and changeover time. No new guides commissioned while we compare.

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DineshBrooks0821
Replying to IsaacAbbott0085

Would somebody other than you maintain the guides? If the answer is no, the estimate also needs the support you currently provide whenever a bag sits badly.

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IsaacAbbott0085
Replying to DineshBrooks0821

No named replacement for me. I have been treating my support as incidental. The existing notes show it recurring across the variants.

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JaneAllen0336
Replying to IsaacAbbott0085

That is enough to put a stop decision in front of whoever funds it. You do not owe the earlier effort another purchase.

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IsaacAbbott0085
Replying to JaneAllen0336

We agreed to end this packing trial and return the bench to mixed orders. The robot will stay available for separately approved trials. Keeping the timing notes and guide drawings, including the inconvenient bits.

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NathanAllen0286
Replying to IsaacAbbott0085

Fair decision with no spare station and no support cover. I still think a stable product could suit that motion, but it doesn't have to be this packing job.

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DineshBrooks0821
Replying to IsaacAbbott0085

Record the guide inventory before it leaves the bench. Somebody can reuse the design work later without mistaking the stored tooling for an approved production process.

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