Why am I still making guides for this UR5e bag trial?

DineshBrown0908 · 25 Sept 2025, 19:05 UTC

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DineshBrown0908
I think our UR5e bag-to-tray trial has reached the point where I am maintaining my own demonstration. Each new bag needs another guide adjustment before the easy transfer. How do I make a fair stop decision?

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ReeceArcher0384
Replying to DineshBrown0908

Compare a whole order with the current manual route.

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DineshBrown0908
Replying to ReeceArcher0384

We timed transfers, not the order. I also prepared all the bags first. The packer still does that preparation when I'm not hovering nearby.

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ReeceArcher0384
Replying to DineshBrown0908

Count your hovering too. Someone has to replace it.

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DineshBrown0908
Replying to ReeceArcher0384

Fair enough. I'll include guide setup and interruptions. The trial is borrowing space from the normal packing bench, so clearing it away belongs in the comparison as well.

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AnnaBarnes0590
Replying to DineshBrown0908

Ask the packer which bits actually feel better. Less reaching might be worth something, but not if you've traded it for fiddling with every bag mouth.

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DineshBrown0908
Replying to AnnaBarnes0590

She likes the raised tray. Not the guides.

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JasperAli0203
Replying to DineshBrown0908

Try to preserve that useful tray position in the manual comparison. Otherwise the robot trial gets credit for a bench improvement which may not need a robot. Include someone else doing the setup from the instructions, because your own familiarity is part of what you are trying to measure.

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ReeceArcher0384
Replying to DineshBrown0908

Any limit agreed for the next round of changes?

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DineshBrown0908
Replying to ReeceArcher0384

Not previously. My supervisor and I have agreed one comparison with the existing guides, no extra tooling. If it still needs my help between bag types, we stop this route.

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TheoAli0236
Replying to DineshBrown0908

That is a reasonable stopping point, provided you also judge the complete workload and the packer's experience rather than only whether another person can coax it through.

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ReeceArcher0384
Replying to TheoAli0236

Exactly. Passing a setup test alone would be a low bar.

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JasperAli0203
Replying to DineshBrown0908

Write down what the other person needed help with. Not to create an endless new improvement list, but so the stop decision has specific reasons and does not become the robot was disappointing.

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DineshBrown0908
Replying to JasperAli0203

Comparison finished. The guide change still needed me, and packing the whole order took more attention than the manual route with the raised tray. Supervisor and packer agree we should stop developing this version.

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AnnaBarnes0590
Replying to DineshBrown0908

Keep the raised tray, then. That's a useful result.

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DineshBrown0908
Replying to AnnaBarnes0590

We are keeping it after the bench review. Thanks, Anna and Jasper, for separating that from the robot. I've removed the trial from our production plan and labelled the stored tooling with its drawings.

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AnnaBarnes0590
Replying to DineshBrown0908

Sounds settled. No fourth guide required.

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TheoAli0236
Replying to DineshBrown0908

The reasons are clear enough for someone to revisit later if the bag range changes, without pretending the present arrangement earned a place in production.

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