The layer pattern fits, but some cartons sit over gaps (Fairino FR10)

MeiBarnes0603 · 6 Jun 2026, 11:28 UTC

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MeiBarnes0603
Our plan for stacking packed cartons onto dispatch pallets with Fairino FR10 in a packaged-products warehouse has a very neat alternating layer drawing. But a labelled dispatch carton has a preferred support direction, and some rotated cartons sit over gaps. I want packaging support and tool access reviewed together before I accept the pattern. Where should I start?

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YasminBennett0702
Replying to MeiBarnes0603

Start by showing the carton edges that carry load and the pallet deck support on the layer drawings. Is the complete gripper outline available to overlay as well?

18 points
ME
MeiBarnes0603
Replying to YasminBennett0702

We've only got top-view rectangles and a tool centre mark. The carton note specifies support direction, but the layer drawing doesn't show it.

10 points
YA
YasminBennett0702
Replying to MeiBarnes0603

Give packaging and the integrator a drawing combining those details. A repeated unrotated layer is worth assessing alongside the alternating one because it may better suit the specified support direction.

8 points
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ClaraBennett0698
Replying to YasminBennett0702

@YasminBennett0702 The repeated arrangement remains a candidate, not an accepted solution. Its support and load stability still need assessment for the cartons with their actual contents.

14 points
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YasminBennett0702
Replying to ClaraBennett0698

You're right to qualify the suggestion. I intended an alternative for comparison, with both patterns requiring packaging assessment of support and stability using the specified filled cartons.

21 points
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SofiaChan1065
Replying to YasminBennett0702

Doesn't alternating the carton directions strengthen a stack, or is that assumption too general here?

14 points
YA
YasminBennett0702
Replying to SofiaChan1065

That rule is too broad because changing the pattern changes the load paths. The packaging reviewer needs the carton construction and support geometry to assess the result.

20 points
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MeiBarnes0603
Replying to YasminBennett0702

The layer overlay shows carton edges above gaps below. That gives me something specific to mark for packaging instead of saying the pattern feels wrong.

12 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to MeiBarnes0603

On my dispatch setup, the top view hid the pallet deck gaps completely. Adding the deck drawing changed which positions needed packaging review

19 points
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MeiBarnes0603
Replying to ElliotCarter1031

@ElliotCarter1031 Did you tie the pattern to a pallet specification? Ours just says pallet size, which now seems a bit thin.

3 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to MeiBarnes0603

Include the deck geometry in the pattern's pallet reference. Matching overall dimensions don't establish identical support beneath the carton arrangement

13 points
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YasminBennett0702
Replying to MeiBarnes0603

@MeiBarnes0603 For access, show the whole tool beside neighbouring cartons at the corner placements. The centre mark won't reveal body or finger overlap.

12 points
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MeiBarnes0603
Replying to YasminBennett0702

With the complete outline added, my offline layout shows a tool overlap with a neighbouring carton at one corner. I'll identify that specific position for the integrator's assessment.

13 points
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ClaraBennett0698
Replying to MeiBarnes0603

Include approach and release, not just the final pose. Clearing the outline at the destination wouldn't establish access to it.

6 points
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MeiBarnes0603
Replying to ClaraBennett0698

I'll keep that review offline and include every layer. I'm not going to explore the corner with manual jogging.

6 points
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SofiaChan1065
Replying to MeiBarnes0603

@MeiBarnes0603 What about the last layer if it isn't full? Does that need a drawing too?

17 points
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YasminBennett0702
Replying to SofiaChan1065

@SofiaChan1065 Any partial layers permitted by the process belong in the review. The packaging assessment needs to cover the resulting loads that dispatch may actually receive.

8 points
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MeiBarnes0603
Replying to YasminBennett0702

Could I ask packaging which partial arrangements they'd permit, instead of assuming every possible missing box is acceptable?

0 points
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YasminBennett0702
Replying to MeiBarnes0603

Ask packaging to establish the permitted arrangements and use those in the integration requirements. Assessment of a full pattern doesn't automatically cover every incomplete variant.

17 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to YasminBennett0702

On my setup, that gave dispatch something specific to recognise. A picture of one perfect full pallet hadn't answered their partial-load question

16 points

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