Which FR5 layer comparison will actually answer our support question?

ChloeAli0222 · 6 May 2026, 22:06 UTC

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ChloeAli0222
On my FR5 packing draft, rotated boxes put required support regions over gaps. I want packaging and tooling comparing the same filled box and the same drawing revision, but what should the comparison include before we keep or reject this pattern?

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OscarChen1141
Replying to ChloeAli0222

Is the filled-box definition agreed, not just its outside dimensions?

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ChloeAli0222
Replying to OscarChen1141

Yes, current product pack and its carton reference are identified. The disagreement is about support in the rotated positions, not which box we mean

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JoBarnes0592
Replying to ChloeAli0222

Then have packaging mark the required bearing regions through both layers, with tooling showing opening and withdrawal against that same section... a top view of box outlines keeps too much hidden.

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SarahBaker0502
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Include the actual pallet under the bottom layer too, not an imaginary solid base

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GabrielChan1062
Replying to SarahBaker0502

Sarah, has Chloe said the pallet causes a problem, or are you adding that as another condition to check? I'd keep those separate in the request.

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SarahBaker0502
Replying to GabrielChan1062

Another check. Not claiming we've found a bottom-layer fault from this description

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ChloeAli0222
Replying to SarahBaker0502

Understood. The two rotated positions are the observed concern. Pallet support is in the review scope, not on my list of established faults

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OscarChen1141
Replying to ChloeAli0222

Does the tool section actually show the fingers leaving, or only holding the box?

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JoBarnes0592
Replying to OscarChen1141

We considered fewer cartons on another job to make room, but that was one option there, not a recommendation to reduce yours. Has anyone proposed an alternative pattern for this pack?

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ChloeAli0222
Replying to JoBarnes0592

An aligned option is proposed. No lower-count option yet. The revised tool request includes withdrawal, Oscar; the original drawing stopped at the held position

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GabrielChan1062
Replying to ChloeAli0222

Ask what changes for dispatch with that aligned option as well. I mean the whole handling arrangement and any partial loads, rather than assuming the same carton count means the same work.

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ChloeAli0222
Replying to GabrielChan1062

Dispatch is included. I'm keeping the alternative provisional until the support and access reviews return. Not trying to turn a simpler-looking drawing into an answer on its own

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ChloeAli0222
Replying to ChloeAli0222

Packaging has rejected the two rotated positions shown for this filled case. The aligned candidate still needs the complete tool-route review. We have withdrawn the original pattern from the purchase scope

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SarahBaker0502
Replying to ChloeAli0222

Thanks for posting the actual decision. Different from just saying the drawings are improving

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OscarChen1141
Replying to ChloeAli0222

When is the aligned candidate's route review due?

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