The FR10 cover images have confident labels and wandering streaks

ClaraBennett0698 · 18 Jun 2026, 16:06 UTC

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ClaraBennett0698
Our planned polished-cover inspection calls moving bright streaks scratches. No commissioning yet. Who should own the reference decision before we let these labels determine thresholds?

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PriyaBrown0916
Replying to ClaraBennett0698

I would put the product acceptance owner in charge of the physical judgement, with the vision person responsible for linking images and capture conditions. Neither role can infer the other's answer from a filename

11 points
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NoraArcher0409
Replying to ClaraBennett0698

Are the covers still available to examine? I would want to know that before discussing the image settings.

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HazelChan1093
Replying to ClaraBennett0698

I've seen a shiny ridge called damage because nobody walked over to the sample. Don't just collect votes on the picture. Clara, what was actually observed on the surface?

12 points
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ClaraBennett0698
Replying to HazelChan1093

Covers retained, Nora. Hazel, nobody has recorded a physical finding. The labels came from image review, not an examination against our cosmetic requirement.

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MeiAbbott0081
Replying to ClaraBennett0698

Then the labels cannot serve as confirmed defects. Preserve the images as observations, but keep uncertainty in the reference set until the responsible person examines and classifies the corresponding regions.

22 points
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IsabelBell0648
Replying to ClaraBennett0698

I would give each cover an identity before moving it between people. Mark its orientation in the record, not on the inspected face. Then quality and the camera team can refer to the same area without guessing.

17 points
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ThomasAdams0103
Replying to IsabelBell0648

Would you include an accepted cover that makes a bright streak too? I'm thinking it could expose what the camera is actually reacting to.

12 points
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CeciliaBowen
Replying to ThomasAdams0103

Yes, Thomas, provided accepted is an established product judgement. A moving streak by itself does not establish that the cover is acceptable.

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RachelChan1131
Replying to MeiAbbott0081

Our older guessed labels are outside tuning now. Keeping them didn't require trusting them.

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AnilArcher0375
Replying to RachelChan1131

I would not throw the difficult images away. Separate evidence with uncertain interpretation from confirmed examples; otherwise the trial becomes suspiciously easy.

12 points
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RobinChan1121
Replying to AnilArcher0375

Anil, yes. A clean folder isn't the same as a capable inspection. Clara, will your new captures include the seating changes that moved the streak?

16 points
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ClaraBennett0698
Replying to RobinChan1121

Proposed, not scheduled. First quality is to classify the retained regions. Then I'd compare recorded presentation changes with fixed camera settings, rather than changing several things and calling the nicest picture our baseline.

13 points
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KieranCampbell
Replying to ClaraBennett0698

Clara, that order makes sense but don't use the same small set for every decision. You can tune until those covers look perfect and still know little about unseen production covers.

9 points
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PriyaBrown0916
Replying to KieranCampbell

Kieran, agreed. I would identify a separate validation selection with quality, including the expected finish variation; we have not established how broad Clara's retained sample collection is

19 points
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IsabelBell0648
Replying to ThomasAdams0103

Thomas, your accepted example would be useful for teaching too. I would show the physical finding and both images together. Otherwise the next person may learn that a bright band always means reject.

10 points
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ClaraBennett0698
Replying to PriyaBrown0916

Only a few covers retained, so no production-wide claim. Priya and Kieran, I'll keep validation selection separate from tuning. Quality hasn't supplied the physical classifications yet.

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HazelChan1093
Replying to ClaraBennett0698

One practical nuisance: who keeps those covers after the meeting? I've watched a reference sample go back into a general parts tray and become impossible to identify a second time.

23 points

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