Our FR10 carton samples have seams the demonstration never touched

ChenChen1138 · 15 Aug 2026, 15:50 UTC

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ChenChen1138
Planning 165 packed cartons. FR10 vacuum demo used a smooth surface; ours have seams, print and varied board. What should the concept trial cover?

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JonasArcher0372
Replying to ChenChen1138

Use representative filled cartons and actual pickup locations. Record surface condition, holding, release and what happens when the pickup is uncertain, not only the best seal.

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ChloeBennett0744
Replying to JonasArcher0372

Include receiving condition as well. A carton remaining attached during motion would not settle whether the contents and packaging tolerate that handling, or whether it releases where your process needs it.

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ChenChen1138
Replying to JonasArcher0372

Trial on our retained cartons found a seam-crossing pickup that would not establish the required hold. Smooth-face samples passed that part. Supplier suggests moving the contact away from seams.

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LinAllen0270
Replying to ChenChen1138

Can production actually present every carton with that clear face available? Otherwise the proposed move makes incoming preparation part of the concept.

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JonasArcher0372
Replying to ChenChen1138

And keep the failed seam sample in the report. A new contact position doesn't make the first trial a success.

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ChenChen1138
Replying to LinAllen0270

Not without sorting and turning cartons at the bench. That work wasn't in our plan. I've asked for its time and variability to be assessed alongside another tool concept.

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ChloeBennett0744
Replying to ChenChen1138

That comparison should state the presentation each concept requires. It is reasonable to consider extra preparation, but it should be a visible process choice with an owner, not something operators quietly absorb.

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LinAllen0270
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Does the alternative still use the same carton range? Changing the samples and the tool together won't tell you much.

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ChenChen1138
Replying to LinAllen0270

Same retained range specified. No alternative trial yet. First concept is not accepted; its proposed seam-free presentation needs added work before it is even a comparable offer.

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JonasArcher0372
Replying to ChenChen1138

Keep that preparation requirement with the quotation. Otherwise the attractive smooth-face result may outlive the condition that made it possible.

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