FR5 rotated cartons bearing on a lower layer from another packing job

JoBarnes0592 · 19 Jan 2026, 20:03 UTC

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JoBarnes0592
Our FR5 pattern has the right labelled cartons on top and a lower layer copied from another job, so packaging's support arrows land on cartons that won't actually be there; I've asked for the current packed construction and real lower layer together before we discuss tooling changes.

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NoraBrooks0844
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Have the tool designer use that same corrected section, with withdrawal shown through the actual gaps, so packaging's correction does not arrive after a separate tool-access approval has already been issued.

11 points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to NoraBrooks0844

Both are using revision C now, with the copied lower layer removed; the turned carton's bearing end lands over a real gap, and the original pattern has no joint approval.

16 points
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HarishBell0663
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Who is returning the combined answer, Jo, rather than leaving you to decide which of two specialist comments wins? Someone needs to own the actual usable pattern and the packer's work around it.

23 points
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MinaArcher0424
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Compare a complete alternative, not just a moved support line. What has actually been proposed so far? A different carton position can affect withdrawal, the last incomplete layer and how much work lands back with dispatch

14 points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to HarishBell0663

Integrator owns the return, Harish; Mina, the only alternative proposed so far is a lower count with the cartons unturned, and dispatch is comparing that on actual orders rather than an ideal full pallet.

21 points
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OwenBaker0486
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Have packaging and tooling finished that lower-count check, or does it only look less troublesome on paper?

6 points
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HarishBell0663
Replying to JoBarnes0592

And has the packer seen how the order finishes, Jo, since fewer positions can mean more part-filled pallets moving through the same space?

23 points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to OwenBaker0486

Owen, packaging and tooling have checked the lower-count build and its permitted incomplete endings; Harish, the packer walked through those with dispatch, but the extra pallet holding space hasn't been agreed with the warehouse lead.

13 points
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NoraBrooks0844
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Keep that space unresolved in the choice, even with the pattern checks complete; storing the extra pallet somewhere convenient for the drawing is not the same as agreeing where it can actually wait.

14 points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to NoraBrooks0844

Warehouse lead offered a marked holding position for the comparison, and dispatch is checking whether its extra movement fits their workload; we've not accepted the pattern as our operating arrangement yet.

11 points
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OwenBaker0486
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Come back with what dispatch decides; I'm interested whether the lower-count option survives the complete order, not only the support drawing

10 points

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