The transfer works, and I am still arranging every bag

AdaAdams0129 · 12 May 2025, 04:17 UTC

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AdaAdams0129
I have spent more time preparing pouches for our UR5e trial than I expected to spend on the whole exercise. The robot transfers a presented bag into a tray neatly, but each change in fill or pouch shape has needed another insert or adjustment. Yesterday I caught myself moving the least cooperative bags to one side so I could finish a demonstration. I put them back, but it was an uncomfortable moment. I was protecting the demonstration rather than learning whether the process suited our work. My team has been patient. I would like to discuss stopping the mixed-product trial without making everyone feel the effort was wasted. Has anyone had that conversation successfully?

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ThomasBrooks0799
Replying to AdaAdams0129

What would you lose by stopping the mixed-product work and keeping the best-defined case for review? There may be a useful application in there, but the demonstration should not depend on you selecting cooperative bags.

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AdaAdams0129
Replying to ThomasBrooks0799

Mostly I would lose the broad claim I made at the start. The equipment is borrowed for the trial. We have not committed to buying it.

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ThomasBrooks0799
Replying to AdaAdams0129

Then you still have a fairly inexpensive exit.

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AdaAdams0129
Replying to ThomasBrooks0799

Yes. The expensive part so far has been my time, and I think I have been trying to justify it by promising that one more insert will finish the job.

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LeahAli0234
Replying to AdaAdams0129

Our packing trial became one colleague's personal shift. Everyone called it automatic because the arm moved by itself. He arranged every awkward pack before it got there, stayed late to change the guides and came in on his day off when a different pack arrived. He finally took a week away and we packed manually. That gave us the comparison we'd been avoiding. We kept one repetitive order on the cell later, but stopped pretending the rest belonged there. Your team may be waiting for you to say what they've already noticed.

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ThomasBrooks0799
Replying to LeahAli0234

Ada, have your operators had a chance to describe the preparation work in their own words?

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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to AdaAdams0129

Tell them about putting the awkward bags aside. Honestly. That moment says more than another polished transfer video.

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AdaAdams0129
Replying to SofiaArcher0369

I did this morning. Our supervisor said she wondered where those bags had gone. She was kind about it, which was worse for about ten seconds and then a relief.

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AdaAdams0129
Replying to ThomasBrooks0799

The operators want the bench space back for mixed orders. They are willing to help assess one repeat product, provided the changeover does not depend on me being there.

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DavidAli0258
Replying to AdaAdams0129

Price that one product as a whole order, including getting the bench ready and clearing it afterwards. You already know the transfer can look good. The next trial should tell you whether the complete job is worth keeping.

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ThomasBrooks0799
Replying to AdaAdams0129

Which repeat product do they mean?

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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to ThomasBrooks0799

And please pick it for repeatability, not because it owes you a nice result.

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AdaAdams0129
Replying to ThomasBrooks0799

A regular pouch with a consistent fill and the same supplied shape. It still has occasional badly presented bags, and those will stay in the sample set. We have agreed to stop the other variants now.

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LeahAli0234
Replying to AdaAdams0129

Who's going to set that repeat job up?

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AdaAdams0129
Replying to LeahAli0234

One packer, with the trial lead supervising and my notes available. I will attend the first walkthrough, then let them identify the bits the notes fail to explain.

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LeahAli0234
Replying to AdaAdams0129

Let them finish a sentence before you help. I mean that kindly. It's horribly tempting to fix every snag before somebody can show you what confused them.

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AdaAdams0129
Replying to LeahAli0234

The desk walkthrough found two setup choices I had never written down. We have added those and arranged the supervised trial. No result for the repeat product yet. The mixed orders are back on the manual bench.

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ThomasBrooks0799
Replying to AdaAdams0129

That gives you a smaller question to answer. I would be interested in the packer's view after the trial, particularly how much help they needed after the initial setup.

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