The rotated boxes land on the weakest bit underneath

HassanBarnes0530 · 9 Jun 2025, 06:18 UTC

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HassanBarnes0530
I laid our two proposed FR5 pallet layers over each other and the rotated boxes sit over the empty centres of the cases below, not their internal end supports; I thought alternating was meant to help, so I'm a bit lost now.

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GabrielBell0627
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

Alternating can help tie a load together. It doesn't magically put cardboard under the weight. Do you have a section showing the supports inside these particular boxes, or just the outside dimensions?

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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to GabrielBell0627

Just the outside dimensions in the pallet file, but I've got an empty case with the two folded end pieces still in it.

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GabrielBell0627
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

Take that to whoever specified the packaging. They'll need to see how the next layer bears on it. I'd draw a straight-stack option beside the alternating one so you've got an actual comparison.

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JamieBrooks0817
Replying to GabrielBell0627

Straight stacking isn't automatically the answer either, especially once the pallet gets moved; I'd want the packaging person looking at the whole load, not just the nice support underneath one box.

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GabrielBell0627
Replying to JamieBrooks0817

Yes, a comparison. I'm not signing off a straight stack from a forum post. It's something the packaging person can reject or improve, instead of being handed only the pattern everybody already likes.

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ReeceBell0645
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

Are the end pieces loose inserts? I am trying to picture whether they can move when the case is packed.

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GabrielBell0627
Replying to ReeceBell0645

Hassan, can you show the assembled case rather than just the empty shell? Reece's question matters if the support positions change when the product goes in.

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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to ReeceBell0645

Yep, they're folded into the liner and the product holds them apart, thanks Reece, I hadn't shown that in my sketch.

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LiamBaker0490
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

What does the tool grip? A different layer pattern can leave a jaw boxed in by the cartons already placed (even if packaging likes the support).

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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to LiamBaker0490

The long faces, and the supplier's picture has the fingers still closed after placement, so I need that drawn open as well.

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LiamBaker0490
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

Did they send the open-finger version? Interested whether the pattern survives that extra bit of kit.

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GabrielBell0627
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

I'd ask for the placement order on it too. Same finished pallet, different neighbours beside the tool while it's putting a box down. That can be the annoying part.

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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to LiamBaker0490

Open fingers clash on the inside row in drawing P2, and the toolmaker has sent P3 with that row placed first; packaging hasn't reviewed P3 yet.

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JamieBrooks0817
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

Glad you named the revisions, because a row-order change can get lost in an email; does P3 change where any carton finishes, or just when it gets there?

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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to JamieBrooks0817

Only the order, same final positions.

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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

Packaging has now rejected the rotated layer as drawn and asked for a supported layout first, then they'll look at how to keep the load together; not the answer dispatch wanted but at least we're talking about the actual boxes.

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GabrielBell0627
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

That's useful progress. Let dispatch bring their handling requirements into the next review, though. Otherwise you'll fix the support and discover it still can't go through their usual route.

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