Our FR10 inspection notes let both programs clear the same acknowledgement

IsabelAdams0126 · 20 Jan 2026, 16:07 UTC

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IsabelAdams0126
I compared the PLC author's note with the inspection application's note. Both claim to clear the acknowledgement, and neither says how long the coupon request remains available. A missed request then looks like a rejected coupon on our screen. We are reviewing this ordinary job interface separately from the safety system.

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JasperBrown0899
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Have both authors name the writer and meaning of each ordinary signal together.

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HanaCarter0970
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Our handover used 'accepted' for both receiving a request and accepting the part. Sort those meanings out before agreeing the clearing sequence.

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OliverBrooks0798
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Which message did the operator actually see after the missed request, Isabel?

18 points
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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to OliverBrooks0798

Oliver, 'coupon rejected'. There is no inspection result behind that message. Hana, the application author says acknowledgement means request received; the PLC note calls it inspection accepted. That explains some of the disagreement.

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AnikaChan1117
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Then the screen text is wrong for that case regardless of how they repair the request timing. Keep it on the work list.

20 points
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JasperBrown0899
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Did the authors agree one acknowledgement meaning yet?

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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to JasperBrown0899

Receipt only is agreed. Completion and its result are separate. The draft keeps the request identifiable until receipt and names which side writes and clears each part of the exchange.

23 points
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HanaCarter0970
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Isabel, what if receipt comes back after the application has declared a timeout? Our tidy normal sequence did not answer that.

14 points
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OliverBrooks0798
Replying to HanaCarter0970

And what does the operator do during that timeout, while the authors are debating its signal names?

20 points
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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to HanaCarter0970

Hana, late receipt is still an open design case. Oliver, the proposed screen says receipt uncertain and calls for the named support contact, without offering a blind repeat. We need to test that wording with our operator.

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AnikaChan1117
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

I wouldn't call the interface complete with that case open. An ordinary delay is not some exotic future enhancement.

14 points
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JasperBrown0899
Replying to AnikaChan1117

Agreed. Put it in the required cases before implementation is signed off.

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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to AnikaChan1117

It is required. The authors have now defined the late-receipt handling against the original attempt identity and added a controlled delayed-reply test. I was too quick to describe the normal exchange as the main thing.

20 points
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HanaCarter0970
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Include duplicate receipt as well, since clearing and seeing the same value again should not start a second inspection.

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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to HanaCarter0970

Delayed and duplicate receipt tests passed in the offline interface check. The operator correctly distinguished uncertain receipt from an actual rejected coupon in the walkthrough. Installed integration checks remain, but the contradictory note and misleading screen label are corrected.

9 points
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OliverBrooks0798
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Was the support contact able to identify the attempt from the operator's screen during that walkthrough?

8 points

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