How do I stop these old clamped checks becoming our acceptance figures?

LucyCarter1002 · 4 May 2025, 10:14 UTC

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LucyCarter1002
I am reviewing another set of bracket records for a UR5e fixture proposal. The spreadsheet calls every reading 'final', but some photographs show the bracket still restrained. The released parts were sometimes corrected afterwards. How do I recover a useful comparison from this without pretending the missing steps were recorded?

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ChloeAdams0135
Replying to LucyCarter1002

Can you link each photo to a row? I'd identify the clamped checks first, then leave the rows with no evidence undecided.

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LucyCarter1002
Replying to ChloeAdams0135

The photographs have part tags. Six rows match. Other pictures were renamed during an old folder move and I cannot link them reliably.

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ChloeAdams0135
Replying to LucyCarter1002

Start with the six, then. No need to guess the others into place.

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HenryAllen0264
Replying to LucyCarter1002

Are those six all the same bracket revision? We have been caught by mixed retained samples.

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LucyCarter1002
Replying to HenryAllen0264

Good question. Tags identify parts, but the spreadsheet has no drawing revision. I'll check against the work orders.

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LucyCarter1002
Replying to LucyCarter1002

Two revisions. Four of the six belong to the one now proposed. The other two have a different gusset.

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ChloeAdams0135
Replying to LucyCarter1002

Keep the groups separate while you review them.

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MayaAdams0127
Replying to LucyCarter1002

I ran into the mystery-correction version of this recently. Could you find what was actually changed on those four parts, or is 'corrected' all anyone wrote?

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ThomasBrown0886
Replying to LucyCarter1002

Also identify the reference used for each measurement; a tag connects a number to a part, but the photograph may still not show how that dimension was taken.

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LucyCarter1002
Replying to MayaAdams0127

The measurement method is recorded for those four. Correction is just a tick box. We don't know what was done or whether the recorded value came before it.

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LucyCarter1002
Replying to ThomasBrown0886

To answer Thomas, they used the same inspection drawing reference. That helps with the dimensions, but doesn't fill the correction gap.

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HenryAllen0264
Replying to LucyCarter1002

Any fixture repair history? Our inherited shim was compensating for a repaired mounting face.

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LucyCarter1002
Replying to HenryAllen0264

There is a repair entry for one support. No dimensions attached. I'll ask maintenance what else survives before anyone copies the present packing pieces.

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ChloeAdams0135
Replying to LucyCarter1002

Can you photograph the current support arrangement cheaply while that search happens? It would give the designer something definite to work from.

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LucyCarter1002
Replying to ChloeAdams0135

Yes, maintenance has photographed it during the survey. We are treating the repair and packing as things to explain, not instructions for the new fixture.

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MayaAdams0127
Replying to LucyCarter1002

That saved us an argument too, writing down 'we don't know why this is here' instead of giving a mystery strip the grand title of correction feature.

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ThomasBrown0886
Replying to LucyCarter1002

What will the new trial record for incoming fit-up? The old records start at the fixture, which may hide differences already present in the loose parts.

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ChloeAdams0135
Replying to ThomasBrown0886

I'd include which component revisions went into each assembly as well, after finding those two gussets mixed into the old set.

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LucyCarter1002
Replying to ChloeAdams0135

Quality and the fixture designer are defining those checks. We have retained the four traceable cases as background, with their correction uncertainty stated. They won't become final acceptance figures for the new design.

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MayaAdams0127
Replying to LucyCarter1002

Did maintenance find anything more about that repaired support? That's the loose end I'd still be curious about.

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