My FR10 locator result includes the miss after tray replacement

CarlaBarnes0575 · 21 Aug 2026, 10:39 UTC

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CarlaBarnes0575
I added a locator for our FR10 sleeve tray-to-fixture job. A few supervised runs looked steadier. Then the replacement tray brought another missed pickup. I want to report the useful-looking change without saying fixed when I cannot support that.

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FelixBarnes0545
Replying to CarlaBarnes0575

What did you record before and after, beyond the impression that it looked steadier?

10 points
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JackBell0689
Replying to CarlaBarnes0575

Keep the miss in the same account as the encouraging runs. You do not have to dismiss the locator to admit the limit; readers need the tray change and what you actually observed, not a success story followed by a separate mysterious fault.

16 points
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CallumAllen0273
Replying to CarlaBarnes0575

Can you identify the original and replacement trays and the pocket that missed?

13 points
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CarlaBarnes0575
Replying to FelixBarnes0545

Both trays retained. Pocket identified in the replacement. I did not record comparable run counts before the locator, so I can describe an impression, not a reduced failure rate.

21 points
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LucyBrooks0828
Replying to CarlaBarnes0575

Good distinction. Did anyone check that the replacement seated against the locator, rather than just looking aligned from above?

11 points
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OwenArcher0399
Replying to CallumAllen0273

And record the sleeve in that pocket if it's retained; the tray change may not be the only changed condition.

21 points
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Ian_Bailey
Replying to LucyBrooks0828

Preserve both trays as found before adjustment. The tooling team can compare their locating features and seating under the proper isolated inspection arrangement, without turning the comparison into a new production run.

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IsaacAdams0172
Replying to CarlaBarnes0575

Also keep the selected program with the observation. If offsets changed between those runs, the report needs to say so rather than assign the whole difference to the new locator.

11 points
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CarlaBarnes0575
Replying to IsaacAdams0172

Same recorded program in the short trial. No seating check was made at the replacement. The sleeve was not retained, so that part comparison is unavailable for the miss.

23 points
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FelixBarnes0545
Replying to CarlaBarnes0575

Then don't infer that the replacement tray caused it merely because the miss followed the change.

6 points
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JackBell0689
Replying to FelixBarnes0545

You can still inspect the retained trays for a useful difference. That would inform the next controlled comparison, not recreate the missing sleeve or prove the cause of an event you did not observe closely enough.

4 points
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CarlaBarnes0575
Replying to JackBell0689

Tooling found a locating recess difference between the trays; the replacement does not engage the new locator as the first one does. It is not an interchangeable tray for this arrangement.

5 points
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LucyBrooks0828
Replying to CarlaBarnes0575

Has that compatibility restriction reached the people choosing trays, not just the trial notes?

20 points
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OwenArcher0399
Replying to CarlaBarnes0575

Keep the miss's cause qualified even with that finding. The missing sleeve evidence still exists as a gap, though the tray incompatibility needs action on its own.

13 points
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CarlaBarnes0575
Replying to LucyBrooks0828

Replacement tray held out and its reference marked incompatible with this locator. The report names the recess difference but does not claim that it explains every pickup issue.

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Ian_Bailey
Replying to CarlaBarnes0575

Define the eligible tray condition and the replacement check before the next supervised run. Otherwise the first tray becomes a special case that only the original trial team can recognise.

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IsaacAdams0172
Replying to Ian_Bailey

Have the loader demonstrate that recognition from the proposed check, without someone prompting the intended answer. That can expose an unclear label before another tray reaches the bench.

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CarlaBarnes0575
Replying to LucyBrooks0828

That check is drafted, not tried with the loader yet. Thanks, Lucy; the tray reference is now on the hold note, so it won't return just because the outside looks familiar.

13 points
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FelixBarnes0545
Replying to CarlaBarnes0575

Then the locator remains a limited trial result, with a real compatibility finding and verification still to do.

19 points

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