How should the pallet simulation show unsupported carton ends?

CalebAbbott0058 · 18 Jun 2025, 04:49 UTC

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CalebAbbott0058
I built the alternating-layer model for an FR10 proposal and concentrated on collisions. Packaging then pointed out that the rotated case ends sit above gaps in the layer below. The animation looks convincing because it treats every carton as a rigid block. I need to correct what the review can reasonably conclude from it

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OmarChen1187
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

Show the support areas on the model, but do not pretend that colouring them gives a strength assessment. Packaging still needs to judge the real arrangement.

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CalebAbbott0058
Replying to OmarChen1187

I have added the reinforced end areas from the current packing drawing. Several now visibly cross gaps. The model still has no carton deformation behaviour.

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MiaChan1079
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

Put that limitation beside the review output. People remember the movie more readily than the discussion. A collision-free rigid block is very obliging; a filled carton may not be.

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LeahAli0234
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

Our team once watched a demo three times before anyone asked where the boxes came from. Show the incoming carton condition as well. Packing staff will spot whether your lovely square samples look like what they actually handle.

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HarishAllen0315
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

Are the cartons in the tool model held in the same orientation as the packaging drawing assumes? I would check that before changing the layer order.

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CalebAbbott0058
Replying to HarishAllen0315

They are, but the tool supplier proposes turning one row during placement. I had rendered only the finished stack, not that intermediate state.

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OmarChen1187
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

Then add the intermediate placement and tool withdrawal. Or rather, show those for each distinct position, not just the easiest case at an empty corner.

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MiaChan1079
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

I would ask packaging which cases need a physical trial before expanding the simulation. You could spend days animating an arrangement they already know they will reject.

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CalebAbbott0058
Replying to MiaChan1079

Packaging wants a different second layer assessed first. I'm keeping the original model as rejected for support review, and preparing the new candidate without an approved label.

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LeahAli0234
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

Did they explain the change in words packing staff can use? I mean which ends need support, not a screenshot everyone has to memorise.

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HarishAllen0315
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

Caleb, has the proposed second layer reached the tool supplier yet? Your revised model may need different opening clearances as well as a different order.

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CalebAbbott0058
Replying to HarishAllen0315

Sent to them with the marked support areas. Packaging described the required end support too; I will include that explanation with the eventual operator material.

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OmarChen1187
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

Will you retain a view of why the first candidate failed? It could stop someone restoring it later because it has the nicer carton count.

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