Cannot select the UR5e layer from separate support and tool views

HazelBarnes0571 · 28 Jun 2026, 21:17 UTC

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HazelBarnes0571
Packaging has marked the box end supports. Tooling still shows an isolated carton. What drawing joins those facts for our alternating UR5e layer?

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AaronBarnes0523
Replying to HazelBarnes0571

Put the packed box's marked supports over the preceding layer and show the complete tool releasing in placement order. The useful view includes neighbours, not just the box being carried.

14 points
HA
HazelBarnes0571
Replying to AaronBarnes0523

Our top view has placement arrows only. No open tool or withdrawal path.

23 points
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ElliotChan1118
Replying to HazelBarnes0571

Then request one actual placement in context. Pick a rotated box where a support lies over a gap. Show what is already on the pallet and where the tool must go after release. That gives both reviewers the same concrete problem.

18 points
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CallumBrooks0795
Replying to ElliotChan1118

I would not conclude the box is unsupported solely because the outline crosses a gap. More precisely, compare its required bearing regions with that gap and packaging's permitted conditions before deciding whether the layout fails.

-6 points
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HazelBarnes0571
Replying to CallumBrooks0795

The marked end region crosses it. Packaging has not stated that bridging is permitted.

7 points
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OwenAbbott0051
Replying to HazelBarnes0571

Our review once used empty cartons to illustrate a pattern. Useful picture, but it did not establish support under load. Are your support marks for the packed product?

15 points
HA
HazelBarnes0571
Replying to OwenAbbott0051

Yes, Owen. The packing specification identifies the reinforced ends of the filled box.

7 points
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AaronBarnes0523
Replying to HazelBarnes0571

That is a useful starting point. Does the tool designer have that same packing specification, Hazel?

13 points
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ElliotChan1118
Replying to AaronBarnes0523

Aaron, I'd send the marked drawing as well. The end-support detail can disappear when the next person extracts only outside dimensions from the specification.

3 points
CA
CallumBrooks0795
Replying to ElliotChan1118

And identify the revision on their response. A new layout can solve the tool's exit and move the unsupported box somewhere else, so two answers against different drawings are not a joint assessment.

21 points
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HazelBarnes0571
Replying to AaronBarnes0523

Tooling had dimensions only. I've sent the marked support view and requested a common revision.

1 points
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OwenAbbott0051
Replying to HazelBarnes0571

Who settles the conflict if packaging wants support exactly where tooling wants an exit? I would ask who owns that decision before separate approvals start arriving.

7 points
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ElliotChan1118
Replying to OwenAbbott0051

The integrator can coordinate alternatives, with packaging retaining the support decision. No need for Hazel to invent a compromise clearance between two suppliers' drawings.

13 points
HA
HazelBarnes0571
Replying to OwenAbbott0051

Our integrator owns that review. They've acknowledged both constraints, with no revised layout yet.

17 points
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AaronBarnes0523
Replying to HazelBarnes0571

Is reducing the layer count allowed, or does dispatch require the current count? That could affect which alternatives they should spend time on.

17 points
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HazelBarnes0571
Replying to AaronBarnes0523

Dispatch has not answered that. I left count flexibility open in the request.

11 points
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CallumBrooks0795
Replying to HazelBarnes0571

Then keep a lower-count layout conditional, not the agreed solution. You've identified what the review needs, but neither the support result nor the tool route has been supplied yet.

14 points

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