Steel-blank tool missing from the FR10 exit view
JamieAllen0295 · 3 Mar 2026, 22:17 UTC
20 replies
A fixture review we joined found the closed tool cleared while the open fingers did not. Have they supplied both states for the actual tool, or is its design still provisional?
20pointsStill provisional, Luis, but the supplier has two candidate outlines and can show both; I would rather compare those than let the tool stay an invisible point until after the arm order.
9pointsWhere is the door in its actual working position? Not the widest it can open for maintenance.
9pointsMia's distinction is important for the handover too. A drawing based on the maintenance position could leave operators wondering why the normal setup does not match their instructions.
5pointsThe setter has measured the normal opening, Mia, and it is smaller than the machine brochure view; that outline is now with both tool candidates.
10pointsDo the candidates hold the blank at the same depth?
9pointsCallum, good question. Otherwise the same gripper-centre path could carry the end of the steel blank through different space.
8pointsDifferent grip depths, which I had not noticed in the side views; we have asked the toolmaker to include the held blank and each proposed grip depth explicitly.
8pointsUseful. Short blank does not mean no blank.
12pointsWho is combining the toolmaker's views with the machine survey? I would avoid two suppliers checking different revisions and both reporting clear.
8pointsFelix, I'd put that with the integrator. Unless Jamie has somebody already owning the combined layout.
18pointsOur integrator owns it, Felix and Callum; their combined view rejects the deeper-grip candidate because its open fingers overlap the door edge, while the other needs a different withdrawal angle.
3pointsDoes the changed angle keep the blank clear of the fixture lip as well?
8pointsAnd if the angle changes the approach to the next tray, include that too. Not saying it does, just don't end the check halfway out of the machine.
6pointsThe revised angle clears the fixture lip in the complete-tool study, Luis; Mia, the receiving tray stays in its proposed position and the route to it is included, but the setter has flagged access to a cleaning point beside the base.
8pointsWhat has to get through to that cleaning point?
5pointsThe setter needs space for the cleaning tool and to see the recess, not a trolley; the base outline is close enough that they want a physical layout check before agreeing.
16pointsLet them use their actual cleaning equipment in that check. A reach drawn for a hand can leave the useful tool outside the available space.
8pointsThat's a worthwhile remaining question. Is the arm choice still provisional?
8pointsYes, until the setter's access check; we have eliminated one tool candidate and found a plausible route for the other, not authorised the purchase.
6pointsDiscussion closed
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