Why is the air fitting missing from every reach check?

NinaAli0240 · 10 Jan 2025, 06:14 UTC

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NinaAli0240
Our FR5 proposal reaches the polymer blank fixture in the mill, but the gripper model has a blank face where our actual elbow fitting and hose leave it. I've asked twice whether that changes entry through the door and keep getting the same reach circle back. What should the access review actually contain?

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EllaBrooks0816
Replying to NinaAli0240

The complete tool envelope, including that fitting, and the hose allowance through the movement; a reach circle can't answer your question.

7points
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NinaAli0240
Replying to EllaBrooks0816

Thank you. The fitting is on the side facing the door frame at entry, so this isn't a small detail hidden behind the wrist. I can provide the fitting drawing; the hose shape is less fixed.

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EllaBrooks0816
Replying to NinaAli0240

Ask who owns the hose routing, otherwise the robot supplier and toolmaker can each assume the other has left enough room.

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NinaAli0240
Replying to EllaBrooks0816

Apparently we do, although nobody told stores that when the gripper was ordered. Our maintenance fitter will sit in on the review now; he has to replace the thing later anyway.

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EllaBrooks0816
Replying to NinaAli0240

He'll probably want room for the spanner too (our first layout forgot servicing entirely).

7points
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HarishAllen0315
Replying to NinaAli0240

Have you measured a clash, or is this still a missing-model problem? I'd keep that distinction explicit when sending the review back.

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EllaBrooks0816
Replying to HarishAllen0315

Fair point, I've called it an access problem when the evidence so far is an incomplete access check.

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RickShift
Replying to NinaAli0240

Can the fitter get you an actual assembled outline?

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NinaAli0240
Replying to RickShift

He brought the gripper over with the intended fittings. We photographed it square to the mounting face against a scale, but there is no arm here yet, so I cannot honestly report a collision.

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ReeceArcher0384
Replying to NinaAli0240

Our hose snag appeared only on retreat. Ask for the exit movement as well.

7points
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EllaBrooks0816
Replying to ReeceArcher0384

And ask for the jaw-open version on that exit, since a nice narrow approach can become quite a different shape after release.

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NinaAli0240
Replying to EllaBrooks0816

The revised review now includes open jaws and the fitted elbow. Their first suggested retreat brings the fitting close to the frame; they are looking at another tool orientation, which still needs checking through the whole movement.

7points
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EllaBrooks0816
Replying to NinaAli0240

Get the allowed hose bend and routing into that review before accepting the new orientation, or the fitting clears while the hose pays for it.

10points
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RickShift
Replying to NinaAli0240

Has anyone checked replacement access in that orientation?

20points
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NinaAli0240
Replying to RickShift

The fitter says replacement access looks worse. We have postponed the base drawing approval while the toolmaker considers a different connection arrangement. Annoying, but at least the discussion finally contains the actual bits we bought.

22points
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EllaBrooks0816
Replying to NinaAli0240

Worth keeping that assembled photo with the accepted drawing later, so the next replacement doesn't quietly restore the old fitting arrangement.

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