The locator helped our FR5 sleeve pickup until the tray changed

MeiArcher0429 · 30 Jul 2026, 03:25 UTC

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MeiArcher0429
I added a tray locator to our FR5 sleeve-transfer cell and pickup looked steadier in a few supervised runs. Then we replaced the tray and got another miss. I want my update to include both observations. The improvement looked real, but I haven't established how broadly it holds or what caused the later miss.

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AdaArcher0390
Replying to MeiArcher0429

What did you actually see at the failed pickup, rather than just the final sleeve position?

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VictorChen1142
Replying to MeiArcher0429

Keep each tray's identity with its observations. A replacement tray is a changed input even if nobody has yet found a dimensional difference.

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JonasAli0198
Replying to VictorChen1142

I raised a similar spacer trial and still needed to establish how stores distinguished tray revisions. Worth asking here, but don't turn my unanswered question into your explanation.

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RachelBell0696
Replying to JonasAli0198

And did the replacement bear against the locator in the same way? Matching outer outlines would not show the actual contact.

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MeiArcher0429
Replying to AdaArcher0390

The sleeve was left in its pocket. I don't have a close view of first contact. We recorded which tray changed, but not its locating contact.

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LuisBrooks0869
Replying to MeiArcher0429

Then describe it as a miss after replacement, not a miss caused by replacement. That wording leaves room for a useful investigation without making the changeover operator the explanation.

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TheoBarnes0584
Replying to MeiArcher0429

I'd keep the earlier good runs in the report too. Finding a limitation doesn't mean the locator did nothing; it means those runs didn't establish the claim you were about to make.

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JosephCasey
Replying to TheoBarnes0584

Theo, agreed, but appearance of improvement is not a measured reliability gain. Keep the trial size and supervision beside it so the next shift doesn't inherit a production promise.

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MeiArcher0429
Replying to LuisBrooks0869

I have changed fixed pickup to looked more consistent in the supervised runs. Thanks, Luis; I also removed caused by the new tray from my draft.

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VictorChen1142
Replying to MeiArcher0429

A separate contact comparison can now be proposed without rewriting the earlier observation. Record the approved setup, tray condition and same-part repeat checks so you know which variable changed.

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AdaArcher0390
Replying to MeiArcher0429

Who will capture the next supervised replacement comparison if you're not there?

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RachelBell0696
Replying to VictorChen1142

Victor, include the supporting surface beneath the tray as well. The locator can be touched while the tray rests differently elsewhere.

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LuisBrooks0869
Replying to AdaArcher0390

I'd want the handover to say what remains unobserved, not just ask for more video. First pickup contact and tray seating are two specific gaps people can plan around.

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MeiArcher0429
Replying to AdaArcher0390

The cell trainer owns the next supervised comparison. My posted update now includes the later miss, the missing contact view and the fact that we haven't confirmed a cause.

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JonasAli0198
Replying to MeiArcher0429

Has stores answered the revision question yet? It might simply confirm both trays are nominally the same, which would still leave the actual seating comparison to do.

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TheoBarnes0584
Replying to MeiArcher0429

The account is corrected even while the fault stays open. Keep any future comparison as a dated addition, so readers can distinguish what you knew after those first runs from what you learn later.

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