Which fixture work belongs inside our UR5e mounting-block pilot?

AishaAdams0170 · 28 Sept 2025, 08:46 UTC

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AishaAdams0170
My colleague asked what our UR5e unloading idea costs and I gave her the arm and gripper price. She asked again, more slowly. Fair enough. The blocks come in mixed trays, someone must prepare them, and I had left my fixture work and everyone else's trial time out of the answer. I'd like a small comparison we can both judge, rather than asking her to approve an entire cell on the promise that I'll make the awkward parts work. Would two representative block variants be a sensible first boundary?

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NathanChen1156
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Two can be sensible if you explain why those two. Choose a common variant and one that exposes the awkward handling or changeover. Set the trial question and spending limit with your colleague first.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to NathanChen1156

One common shallow block and a taller one which tips in our loose tray. The question is whether unloading saves enough work after preparation and changeover are included.

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NathanChen1156
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Use the same incoming trays and finished condition for the manual comparison. Include clearing the pilot away if this is a shared bench.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to NathanChen1156

It is shared. The estimate hadn't included putting the normal job back afterwards either.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Try the proposed presentation fixture manually first. A simple divider change might help the existing job even if the robot trial loses. Get a price for that comparison before making the arm purchase the entry fee.

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NathanChen1156
Replying to IsabelBennett0735

Keep that as a separate option in the comparison. Otherwise a useful tray improvement can end up credited entirely to the robot.

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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Your colleague asking twice sounds familiar. Mine asked where the bench went between trials. Apparently 'temporarily' isn't a storage plan.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to SofiaArcher0369

Sofia, ours is needed for another order between trials, so it really does have to clear. Isabel, we can price a manual divider comparison without committing to the robot.

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NathanChen1156
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Who makes the fixture estimate?

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LiamAllen0316
Replying to AishaAdams0170

And who covers your normal work during development?

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to LiamAllen0316

Nathan, our toolmaker is estimating it with my drawing time listed separately. Liam, production planner is costing cover; I had assumed I would squeeze it in, which isn't a reliable budget.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Have the operator handle those two variants in the proposed divider layout before you finalise it. They may spot an irritating reach or a fiddly reload long before you have anything worth timing.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to IsabelBennett0735

We tried a bench mock-up. Operator wants the tall blocks nearer the front, which changes the proposed arrangement. Toolmaker is revising the estimate; no powered trial yet.

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NathanChen1156
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Write down what would justify the next stage while you still agree about the question. Include preparation and reset time, successful handling and the operator's experience, not just the best cycle.

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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Did your colleague join that mock-up review? That's probably more useful than another beautifully optimistic spreadsheet.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to SofiaArcher0369

Yes, she did. She prefers the divider-only option unless the robot trial shows a worthwhile additional saving. I think that's a fair comparison.

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LiamAllen0316
Replying to NathanChen1156

Who can authorise more development if the first trial disappoints?

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NathanChen1156
Replying to LiamAllen0316

Both of you should agree an extension. Otherwise disappointment becomes a reason to buy another fixture, and you are back where you started.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to NathanChen1156

Both signatures required for an extension. Thanks, Liam and Nathan. We have the comparison scope agreed, but the revised fixture and cover costs still need to come back before we approve running it.

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