A second camera plan has polished-cover labels nobody can defend

AlexArcher0385 · 13 Jun 2026, 14:29 UTC

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AlexArcher0385
Separate FR5 cover project from my UR5e faceplate thread. Same uncomfortable problem: small presentation changes move bright streaks, but example labels already call them scratches. I want the physical sample decisions and imaging conditions established before anyone tunes around them.

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SamBell0681
Replying to AlexArcher0385

Who has the actual covers now, Alex? I'd make sure the numbered pieces stay available while quality and the vision team compare them. I mean the physical pieces, not just a shared folder that everyone assumes somebody else can explain.

13 points
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JessBurke
Replying to SamBell0681

Our stores once returned reference parts to ordinary stock because the box only said samples. Put an owner and purpose on these while they're waiting. Otherwise the next person tidying the bench can erase your best comparison without knowing it.

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LinCarter0966
Replying to JessBurke

Jess Burke, did the parts have individual IDs or only the box label?

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JessBurke
Replying to LinCarter0966

Only the box label, Lin. We found two again but couldn't reliably connect them to the photographs. That's why I care about the individual IDs, not just a better cupboard name.

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AlexArcher0385
Replying to SamBell0681

Sam, I have four numbered covers in a retained-sample box. Jess Burke, they won't go back into stock; I'll keep that explicit. The scratch labels still lack quality's physical judgement.

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ImranAdams0131
Replying to AlexArcher0385

Our image set once treated a reseated part as a new example. Group views by cover before anyone votes on labels; the contradiction may otherwise stay hidden.

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JessBlair
Replying to ImranAdams0131

Are those groups preserving the original images, Imran, or replacing them with cropped comparison pictures? I would want to trace a label back to what was actually seen.

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ImranAdams0131
Replying to JessBlair

Originals retained. Crops helped discussion, but they were linked views, not replacements for the captured images or their settings.

12 points
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OwenBrooks0834
Replying to ImranAdams0131

Please keep that link visible in the training material too. A crop can be useful for a lesson, but somebody later needs to know where to look on the complete cover. We once trained a very reliable response to an arrow.

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KaiAllen0280
Replying to AlexArcher0385

The imaging comparison needs the actual holder condition as well. I would inspect how the cover seats before spending money on another lamp, though an unreliable seat and unsuitable illumination can both be present.

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GeorgeBriggs
Replying to KaiAllen0280

We changed a lamp and a locating stop together, then nobody could tell which change helped, so I'd keep those comparisons separate even if the combined result produces nicer pictures.

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ZaraChan1091
Replying to GeorgeBriggs

Use the known defect locations as part of that comparison. Removing a reflection is helpful only if the chosen condition still exposes the surface damage you need to detect; I would not judge it by image neatness alone.

15 points
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AlexArcher0385
Replying to AlexArcher0385

Quality has examined the four covers. Two are accepted, one is rejected for a dent and one remains disputed over a faint surface line. I've kept the disputed cover out of the reference answers, not out of the investigation.

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LinCarter0966
Replying to AlexArcher0385

Who will settle the faint-line decision, Alex? The accepted parts won't answer that one.

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SamBell0681
Replying to ZaraChan1091

Zara, would a dent reject be enough for Alex's scratch work? I would want a confirmed scratch too, or rather a reference for the actual defect class the proposal needs to detect.

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ZaraChan1091
Replying to SamBell0681

No, I would ask quality for a confirmed scratch reference as well. The dent may remain useful for another check, but it does not establish scratch sensitivity or resolve the faint line.

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OwenBrooks0834
Replying to ZaraChan1091

Thanks for separating those, Sam and Zara. That is exactly the distinction a trainer could lose when a folder is simply called rejects and all the parts look shiny.

13 points
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AlexArcher0385
Replying to LinCarter0966

Lin, quality's appearance lead owns the faint-line decision. Sam and Zara, I've asked for confirmed scratch examples across the intended finish range. We haven't started the controlled holder and lighting comparison yet.

9 points
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KaiAllen0280
Replying to AlexArcher0385

Keep the four existing covers available when that starts. They already show why the proposed method needs work, even though not all four qualify as settled reference answers.

8 points

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