Rotated cartons with their end strips over gaps

JoBarnes0592 · 6 Jul 2025, 16:10 UTC

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JO
JoBarnes0592
I'm checking an FR10 pallet proposal and the tidy alternate layer puts our carton end strips over empty space, while the tool supplier wants those gaps wider for the fingers; need packaging and tooling looking at one arrangement before we order the kit

16 replies

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LuisBrown0956
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Show both layer outlines with the carton support areas marked, then the opening and withdrawal space for the proposed tool. Have packaging assess that same filled-carton arrangement before anyone treats the neat footprint as an approval.

20 points
JO
JoBarnes0592
Replying to LuisBrown0956

Overlay done, two ends cross gaps and one of those gaps is the one the fingers need, so closing it isn't the easy answer I hoped for

13 points
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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Could a different order leave an open side for the last placement? Cheap thing to draw before anybody buys narrower fingers.

21 points
LU
LuisBrown0956
Replying to SofiaArcher0369

Try the full order, not only a different first case. Another enclosed final position may remain. Include the tool retreat after release as well as the fingers opening.

1 points
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ChloeBennett0744
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Would a lower-count pattern give enough support and access? I would include it in the comparison even if dispatch prefers the original quantity, with its costs shown rather than dismissed as inefficient.

21 points
JO
JoBarnes0592
Replying to ChloeBennett0744

Dispatch says fewer cartons means more pallets and handling, which is true, but they haven't priced that against another tool concept yet

12 points
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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to JoBarnes0592

That's the comparison I'd want. Less efficient by box count can still be cheaper than the device needed to preserve the box count.

14 points
EL
EllaBell0642
Replying to JoBarnes0592

What pallet and transport arrangement is packaging assessing? The support discussion needs the intended handling conditions, not just the stack sitting on a bench.

9 points
JO
JoBarnes0592
Replying to EllaBell0642

Actual pallet type is identified, but the transport restraint wasn't in the review pack; I've asked dispatch to add their intended arrangement before packaging responds

5 points
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ChloeBennett0744
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Include partial pallets too, if you ship them. The lower-count option might affect how often those occur, and a complete-stack assessment cannot automatically cover every unfinished arrangement.

12 points
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LuisBrown0956
Replying to JoBarnes0592

And use current filled cartons for the assessment. The internal packing determines where those end strips are useful; an empty carton with the same printing is not the same sample.

1 points
JO
JoBarnes0592
Replying to ChloeBennett0744

Packaging has rejected the original gap pattern for the current packed carton and proposed a lower-count candidate; tool supplier is checking its placement order, including partial pallets

7 points
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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Did dispatch price that candidate yet? Or are they still mourning the missing row?

12 points
JO
JoBarnes0592
Replying to SofiaArcher0369

They're pricing it, fairly enough; no one has agreed that the extra handling is negligible, and another tool concept is still in the comparison

12 points
EL
EllaBell0642
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Keep the rejection tied to the original pattern revision. That should prevent it reappearing as an already approved option when the cost sheet circulates.

10 points
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ChloeBennett0744
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Who will own the final combined arrangement? With packaging, tooling and dispatch contributing changes, somebody needs to make sure the costed candidate is the one all three actually reviewed.

8 points

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