The tool outline overlaps the door pocket on our FR10 proposal, although the blank itself clears. I spotted it while checking the mill drawing. Is that enough to reject the base position?
Our FR10 drawing clears the vice but clips the door pocket
CallumBell0621 · 15 Dec 2024, 23:03 UTC
18 replies
Replying to CallumBell0621
Which outline overlaps? The open fingers, the closed gripper, or some rectangle somebody drew round both? You need that distinction before moving the whole arm. A sketchy tool envelope can kill a decent layout or approve a bad one.
18pointsReplying to GabrielBell0627
It's the rectangle around both finger positions. The gripper body is drawn separately, and that seems clear in this view
11pointsReplying to CallumBell0621
Then you haven't shown a collision yet. You have shown a space that needs checking. Does the tool need to open there, or is that after it has moved further into the machine?
17pointsReplying to GabrielBell0627
I don't know where it opens yet. The sequence sheet just says load, release, retract. No intermediate positions
7pointsReplying to CallumBell0621
That's the missing bit. Ask for the release pose and the first withdrawal move with the actual finger geometry. Nobody can answer from 'retract'.
4pointsReplying to CallumBell0621
Cannot choose the mounting position from one view. Add a section through the doorway, with the tool at release height.
13pointsReplying to HazelAdams0136
And include the wrist in that section. We've spent all this time discussing fingers while the part behind them is apparently invisible.
13pointsReplying to CallumBell0621
Our loading position cleared beautifully. The trouble was reaching a dropped part afterwards, because the new base blocked the access door. Get whoever clears stoppages to look at this drawing too.
10pointsReplying to LeahAli0234
I asked our setter. He needs the front opening for fixture changes, so a base straight in front would create another problem
19pointsReplying to CallumBell0621
Give the designer that fixture-change requirement now, with the trolley space marked, or you'll get a lovely robot drawing that quietly borrows the setter's entire working area.
19pointsReplying to CallumBell0621
Has anyone put the actual door travel on the plan? A rectangle labelled 'door' isn't its swept space. Sorry to labour it, but that detail matters here.
5pointsReplying to GabrielBell0627
Yes, the machine supplier's section shows its full travel. Thanks for the wrist point earlier; our designer hadn't included the rear of the tool adapter
15pointsReplying to CallumBell0621
Useful catch. Now check the same assembly on the way out with a part held. The incoming empty tool and outgoing loaded tool don't occupy identical space.
18pointsReplying to JoFixtures
Who gets the final drawings after installation? Ours stayed in somebody's email and night shift kept using the first print. Put a revision on the copy by the machine.
21pointsReplying to LeahAli0234
Maintenance will own the layout copy. We already have a drawing folder for this mill, so I'll ask for the approved version there
15pointsReplying to CallumBell0621
Good home for it. Include tool revision as well; fingers change without anyone thinking the layout changed.
10pointsReplying to GabrielBell0627
The updated section shows clearance for release, but the loaded withdrawal still needs work. I'm leaving the base choice open until that's drawn
18pointsReplying to CallumBell0621
Fair result. When that path arrives, check its intermediate poses too. Two clear endpoints can still have something expensive between them.
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